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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
For instance, dropping support for illegal immigrants to get subsidized healthcare is a morally abhorrent thing to do, regardless if its popular or not.
Things like NIMBY attitudes might be popular, but that does not mean we should cater to them.
This example supports my point, people oppose giving undocumented immigrants subsidized healthcare but they support giving a path to citizenship. In other words, the moral dilemma your positing does not exist.
If we look at the policies that are popular we aren't actually sacrificing anything or behaving morally questionable, we'd be focusing on policy that is good and ambitious that would help everyone. We wouldn't even be losing anything, we can't pass everything and this way we can get elected and work on moving the Overton window alongside evening the playing-field with electoral reform.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Whether or not someone is here illegally should have no bearing on whether or not they are allowed to get healthcare, for one. Also, the same poll says that most Americans do not want to decriminalize the border. This seems to add up to Americans wanting illegal immigrants having a way to become legal immigrants, but to not get any support when they do not have official status.
The moral dilemma posited still exists.
And again, something being popular or not doesn't have bearing on its necessity. A lot of people opposed affordable housing initiatives, but they're still necessary.
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerThe moral dilemma posited still exists.
I don't see how. There is no harm to not wanting to support undocumented immigrants when you also support making them documented.
There's no need to decriminalize the border when you can just make legal immigration significantly easier.
We are a democracy, it has a bearing on viability. If a program is not viable then it's simply not useful, and thus any necessity it may or may not have is irrelevant.
If we choose to maximize our electoral benefit by focusing on the good policy that's actually popular then we can push the necessary reform that will make the rest actually viable later, we cannot afford to pointlessly hold our campaigns back by sticking with highly unpopular policies.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 27th 2019 at 1:16:42 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangIIRC, Obama kept roughly half of the 400 or so promises he made going into office despite dealing with an obstructive and hostile legislative branch. And the stark contrast in his perception leaving office was stunning.
- Left: Obama didn't do a single thing! He sat in his office for eight years with his thumb up his ass! NOT ONE MEANINGFUL CHANGE OCCURRED UNDER HIM!!!
- Right: Obama single-handedly ruined every single facet of American culture! He was like seven terrible Presidents at once, working overtime to destroy all of our laws, traditions, norms, and practices! I didn't know where he found enough time in the day!
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 27th 2019 at 2:37:57 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.> That's what happens when you think politicians are superheroes who can beat up the right people and fix America
People idolising politicians to point of absurdity is largely bourn out of desperation,that and propaganda
Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 27th 2019 at 8:42:41 AM
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverAnd human psychology, we want leaders to believe in and that impulse when coupled with the reasons you listed (and ignorance) can lead to unreasonable expectations.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangWith regards to healthcare, I'm not sure which approach is better: Warren being direct and outright promising to abolish private insurance, though it's very unpopular and unnecessary, few countries follow that model, or pursuing the public option Obama desired.
Life is unfair...Huh. When I read "single bathrooms", I thought it was referring to "bathrooms where there isn't an opposite sex-designated counterpart nearby", and I thought that seemed obvious and weird if there were any that weren't gender-neutral. No, "single bathrooms" refers to "bathrooms meant for only one person to use at a time".
Interesting. I guess the reasoning (besides obviously being good for non-binary and trans people) is that if one of the two bathrooms are occupied, the next person doesn't have to wait to go, they can just use the other bathroom.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 27th 2019 at 8:34:21 AM
Trump really wants to play the whole Antifa game
https://www.axios.com/trump-threatens-classify-antifa-terrorists-9e8c4aa6-75d5-4cc6-a933-dd210f27153e.html

At most, seven promises. Preferably three. But Three National, two state, and two local makes a lot of sense. Then put everything into fulfilling those promises first. If it were up to me, the three national promises would be the following.
1. Comprehensive immigration reform. 2. Green new deal (I don't like it personally, but it seems to be popular.) 3. Employee involvement in corporate governance.
Each of these points would be thorough and specific about what would be done if the election was won by them on federal, state, and local levels. Republican arguments against them would go to a central working group who would provide detailed responses on why these things are a good idea. No one up for election with a D by their name would have to sound uninformed or wavering about any of the three ideas. Any problems that are brought up would have answers.
Edited by Soban on Jul 27th 2019 at 3:42:32 PM