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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#285776: Jul 25th 2019 at 10:45:30 AM

Aye,no to conspiracy theories

did I ever tell about the moon being made of cheese..

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 25th 2019 at 5:47:28 PM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#285777: Jul 25th 2019 at 10:52:15 AM

An amusing bit of news from today's developing WTF Just Happened Today feed:

Trump gave a speech in front of a fake presidential seal that had been edited to look like the Russian coat of arms. The doctored seal swapped out the traditional bald eagle clutching arrows in its talons for a two-headed bald eagle clutching golf clubs. The two-headed eagle in the middle of the seal was similar to the coat of arms Russia has been using since 1993 and the preeminent symbol of the Russian empire dating all the way back to the 1600s and beyond. The speech took place in front of the doctored seal at a student summit hosted by the conservative group Turning Point USA. It is unclear how the swap was made or who is responsible. (The Guardian / Esquire)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/24/trump-presidential-seal-doctored-russia-golf-turning-point

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#285778: Jul 25th 2019 at 10:54:17 AM

My first thought was "Holy shit tampering with the Presidential Seal has to be a serious offence" cos you know serious they take sort of stuff

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#285779: Jul 25th 2019 at 10:59:44 AM

Eh, not like it was an official use of the seal, like on a document or something, just a backdrop for a speech. And that sort of thing is protected by free speech laws. Like, the actual sort of thing protected by free speech. I thought it damn hilarious, props to whoever had the guts to pull that off.

Edited by danime91 on Jul 25th 2019 at 11:00:45 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#285780: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:02:31 AM

Yeah, the Guardian article reads like it's the staffers who let that slip through who should expect trouble over this, not the perpatrator.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#285781: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:07:51 AM

At worst, the person who did might have committed trespassing.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#285782: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:08:19 AM

> Eh, not like it was an official use of the seal

Well it was the President giving a speech so I suppose that makes it official

[up] trespassing,Vandalism of Government property..a prosecutor could quickly rank up offences they committed very quickly

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 25th 2019 at 6:10:57 PM

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#285783: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:11:05 AM

Official use is more like when a document has the seal as the watermark, or stamped, or having it on a website or on the side of a vehicle. I don't think an image from a projector on a wall for a speech at a non-government location counts.

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#285784: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:18:34 AM

Yeah, I think it's majorly stretching things to suggest they could face any kind of serious legal trouble.

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#285785: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:41:47 AM

It's Trump he'd sue them for hurting is ego or something

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#285786: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:42:16 AM

Whoever designed the pattern saw an opportunity to mock Trump in a passive-aggressive way. As noted, I don't expect they would actually face legal consequences for this. Trump's people, on the other hand, may find themselves in hot water for letting the President humiliate himself in this fashion without noticing that the f*cking eagles were holding f*cking golf clubs.

Like, even if you aren't able to make the connection to an old Russian coat-of-arms, that alone should be a red flag that you shouldn't let Trump give his speech in front of this emblem. Someone's going to get reamed for this; especially since this particular President is especially sensitive to perceived humiliation.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 25th 2019 at 12:44:00 PM

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bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#285787: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:45:17 AM

According to CNN, someone has already been fired.

"An audiovisual aide for conservative student group Turning Point USA was fired this week after President Donald Trump appeared on a stage in front of a parody image of the presidential seal at its Teen Student Action Summit."

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#285788: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:56:05 AM

RE: Epstein's suicide

Honestly, given how most inmates feel about sexual predation, it's not too hard to picture someone else trying to take him out because of that.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#285789: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:58:25 AM

[up][up] From that article

The individual responsible, a member of TPUSA's AV team, was let go in the wake of the incident. According to a source familiar with the event, the incident was just a terrible Google search mistake. TPUSA had event branding on the screens, but during a run through ahead of Trump's remarks a few hours before the event, the team was told they had to change the branding to a presidential seal, prompting a search for a high quality image.

"One of our video team members did a Google Image search for a high-res png (file) presidential seal," a source familiar with the incident said, adding that the individual "did the search and with the pressure of the event, didn't notice that it is a doctored seal."

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#285790: Jul 25th 2019 at 11:59:32 AM

I can't tell whether or not the mistake being genuine or a prank gone right is the funnier outcome.

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#285791: Jul 25th 2019 at 12:01:28 PM

16 Marines based out of Camp Peddleton, California were arrested on charges ranging from human trafficking to drug smuggling.

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#285792: Jul 25th 2019 at 12:10:30 PM

[up][up][up][up] Especialy any crimes that involve kids, inmates tend to hate those since well... they no longer get to see there own.

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#285793: Jul 25th 2019 at 12:23:12 PM

Regarding Epstein, apparently he's alive and his injuries aren't life threatening or even serious.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/us/jeffrey-epstein-injured-jail-cell/index.html

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#285795: Jul 25th 2019 at 1:43:31 PM

[up]

In fairness, how often do you think Epstein's been on the receiving end of an ass-whooping? And yes, I did just "in fairness" an alleged serial rapist - it's just in my nature to play Devil's Advocate.

Edited by ironballs16 on Jul 25th 2019 at 4:44:19 AM

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#285796: Jul 25th 2019 at 1:45:41 PM

Not nearly enough.

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#285797: Jul 25th 2019 at 1:50:17 PM

Epstein is going to turn out to be a snowflake: a privileged bastard who's never had to face any real consequences for his actions and folds when confronted with them for real.

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#285798: Jul 25th 2019 at 1:59:45 PM

I really wouldn’t route for Epstein to get killed, if he’s dead he can’t name names. Right now I believe it’s unclear if this was an attempted suicide, standard prisoner on prisoner violence, engineered prisoner on prisoner violence or a strait up hit.

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#285799: Jul 25th 2019 at 6:12:57 PM

In fairness, how often do you think Epstein's been on the receiving end of an ass-whooping? And yes, I did just "in fairness" an alleged serial rapist - it's just in my nature to play Devil's Advocate.

There is no way that he's not in protective custody.

And if he was beaten it's highly unlikely that he would be unharmed.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#285800: Jul 25th 2019 at 8:04:30 PM

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/07/25/day-917/

    Day 917: Extensive activity. 
1/ Following Robert Mueller's testimony and warnings about Russia's continued attempts to interfere in U.S. elections, Senate Republicans blocked two election security bills and a cybersecurity measure. Democrats attempted to pass two bills by unanimous consent on Wednesday that would require campaigns to notify the FBI and the FEC if they receive offers of assistance from foreign governments. The other bill would let the Senate Sergeant at Arms offer voluntary cyber assistance for the personal devices and accounts of lawmakers and their staff. Republican Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith blocked all three of the bills without giving any reason for her objections or indicating whether she blocked the bills on behalf of herself or the GOP caucus. Mueller testified yesterday that "The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious" and that "it wasn't a single attempt. They're doing it as we sit here. And they expect to do it during the next campaign." (The Hill / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/republican-senators-block-election-security-legislation/

2/ Mitch Mc Connell blocked the two election security measures on Thursday, arguing that Democrats are trying to give themselves a "political benefit." Mc Connell called the House-passed legislation "so partisan it received just one Republican vote over in the House," adding that the election security legislation is being pushed by the same Democrats who pushed the "conspiracy theory" of Trump and Russia. (The Hill / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/republican-senators-block-election-security-legislation/

3/ The Senate Intelligence Committee found that "the Russian government directed extensive activity, beginning in at least 2014 and carrying into at least 2017, against U.S. election infrastructure at the state and local level," according to the committee's report on Russian interference. The report recommends that Congress provide additional funding for states to secure elections once the $380 million appropriated in 2018 is spent. (NPR / Bloomberg / Axios / The Hill)

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745205135/senate-intel-committee-unveils-election-security-report-in-wake-of-mueller-day

4/ The House Oversight and Reform Committee authorized subpoenas for senior White House aides official work communications sent via personal email and cellphone. The White House refused to turn over the messages voluntarily earlier this month. Democrats have raised questions about whether Jared Kushner's Whats App communications with foreign officials, Ivanka Trump's use of a private email account to conduct official business, and Stephen Bannon's use of a personal mobile device for White House business violated the Presidential Records Act. (Politico / Washington Post / Axios)

https://www.axios.com/house-oversight-subpoenas-white-house-private-emails-69986371-1737-4eb9-96c4-bcbfef828235.html

5/ The Trump administration threatened a travel ban against Guatemala unless the nation agrees to the safe third country deal, which would require migrants from El Salvador and Honduras to seek asylum there than in the U.S. Guatemala backed out on the immigration deal earlier this month when Guatemala's high court blocked its government from signing the deal with the United States. The White House is looking at the authority already granted to the executive branch to suspend classes of people it considers detrimental to national interests. (NPR / Wall Street Journal)

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745132775/trump-administration-considering-travel-ban-on-guatemalans-after-asylum-snub

6/ The Justice Department will resume executing prisoners awaiting the death penalty for the first time in 16 years. Attorney General William Barr directed the Bureau of Prisons set execution dates for five men on federal death row who have exhausted their legal appeals. Their executions are to be carried out in December and January. (Washington Post / New York Times / ABC News / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/us/five-inmates-federal-executions/

7/ The House passed the budget deal to raise the U.S. debt ceiling and set budget levels for two years. The legislation raises spending by $320 billion above limits set in a 2011 budget law and suspends the debt ceiling until the end of July 2021. 65 Republicans joined the Democrats in the 284-149 vote. 132 Republicans voted against the bill, despite Trump's endorsement. The House vote sends the measure to the Senate, which is expected to pass it in the coming days and send it to Trump’s desk. Trump is expected to sign it. (New York Times / Wall Street Journal / Washington Post / CNBC)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/house-passes-debt-ceiling-and-budget-bill-sending-it-to-the-senate.html

8/ Trump, his company, and three of his children must face part of a lawsuit alleging they used their family name to scam people into joining a multilevel marketing scheme. A federal judge said the Trumps and their investors in a Trump-endorsed company called American Communications Network could be liable for claims of fraud, false advertising, and unfair competition. The suit claims the Trumps received millions of dollars in secret payments from 2005 to 2015 in exchange for endorsing ACN and then conned people into believing that Trump thought their investments would pay off, when the Trumps' real goal was simply to enrich themselves. (Reuters / Bloomberg)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-marketing-lawsuit-idUSKCN1UJ349

9/ Trump's pick for assistant treasury secretary for public affairs repeatedly suggested Obama was secretly a Muslim who was sympathetic to America's enemies. Monica Crowley made the comments online between 2009 and 2015. Trump originally tapped Crowley in December 2016 to be the senior director of strategic communications for the National Security Council before she withdrew herself from consideration after it was reported that she plagiarized portions of her 2012 book and portions of her 2000 Ph.D. thesis. (CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/kfile-monica-crowley/

10/ Trump appeared in front of a fake presidential seal that had been edited to look like the Russian coat of arms. The doctored seal swapped out the traditional bald eagle clutching arrows in its talons for a two-headed bald eagle clutching golf clubs. The two-headed eagle seal is similar to the coat of arms Russia has been using since 1993 and the preeminent symbol of the Russian empire dating back to the 1600s and beyond. Additionally, instead of "e pluribus unum," the scroll above the eagle appears to say "45 es un titere," which roughly translates from Spanish to mean "45 is a puppet." (The Guardian / Esquire / USA Today / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/trump-russia-presidential-seal-tpusa-trnd/


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