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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah, Republicans don't need to be paid by Russians to be selfish disloyal wretches.
After all, it's already in their interests to ignore the harm being done by Trump (or consider it a boon) no need for shady money to be involved.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangHooooly fuck, my wish kinda-sorta came true.
TL;DW - Republican Ken Buck (Ohio) asked why Mueller declined to make a determination regarding the Obstruction charges, Mueller referred to the OLC guidelines. Buck pressed the point, and...
- Ken Buck: But the, uh... could you charge the President with a crime after he left office?
Robert Mueller: Yes.
Buck: You believe that he committed- you could charge the President of the United States with Obstruction of Justice after he left office?
Mueller: Yes.
This should act as the flashpoint moment.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Republican Ken Buck Scores Massive Own Goal in Mueller Questioning
When it was his turn to speak, Rep. Buck pressed Mueller on why he reached a conclusion on whether members of the Trump presidential campaign conspired with Russian officials (they did not, according to Mueller) but did not reach a similar conclusion on whether President Trump obstructed justice.
...
But Buck, a former prosecutor in the Justice Department, wasn’t finished with his questioning.
“Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?” Buck asked.
“Yes,” Mueller replied instantly.
Buck went on: “You believe that he committed — you could charge the President of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?”
“Yes,” Mueller said again.
Edited by Soban on Jul 24th 2019 at 12:27:07 PM
Optimistic me is looking forward to the spectacle of Trump leaving the White House in February 2021 in police custody on the way to his arraignment.
Edited by Fighteer on Jul 24th 2019 at 12:33:52 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The presidency switches between people at midday on Inauguration Day right? So there is a real possibility that if Trump loses in 2020 his last few hours as a free man will be spent watching his successor being sworn in.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranNope, they can't be charged while sitting. The point is to avoid frivolous charges so he can run the country without distraction, not to say "he's incapable of committing a crime while in office."
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.It's unclear if pardoning yourself is allowed or not. It's never come up, and nobody's ever seemed crazy enough to try so far.
Leviticus 19:34That question would go immediately to the Supreme Court, which should crush the idea if the conservative justices are not completely insane.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Insane in that they'd be opening the door for any future President to defy the law to whatever degree they chose: to be completely immune from all consequences of actions taken in office. Not even the most conservative Justice should want that.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"There's also the possibility that a self-pardon is both legitimate and a crime, so he'd get away with any crimes he self-pardoned but could still be charged with obstruction of justice for self-pardoning.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThen he pardons himself for obstruction of justice and the recursion just keeps going...
Of course, he can't pardon himself for state-level crimes, so New York prosecutors would still be able to pluck him out of his fancy tower and put him in prison clothes.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

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