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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It depends on how one defines a "group". There is a collective of people with a vaguely similar agenda using the label "Antifa".
Leviticus 19:34Yeah Obamacare wasn't saved by the Filibuster, it was saved by public outcry getting some Republicans to break ranks.
The Filibuster already has a loophole that enables the repealing of good laws, it's not much use for protecting laws.
Edited by Silasw on Jul 19th 2019 at 6:39:57 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranAfter all that headline-worthy drama surrounding the denouncement of Trump's racism, this is such a transparent bid to retake the public narrative.
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It doesn't have to. Even if it's struck down the effect will be the same as Disregard That Statement, and at this point the damage is already as good as done.
God dammit, Iran seems hellbent on pressing us to war
- they just captured a British oil tanker.
The problem with this argument is that there isn't really any evidence that it will be particularly effective, Antifa as a boogeyman works for internal right-wing consumption but there's no reason to believe that anyone beyond that already loyal group will be distracted.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 19th 2019 at 12:58:21 PM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang![]()
I'm guessing this is retaliation for the British seizing an Iranian tanker off Gibraltar. Both Britain and the USA have warships in the area, so it will be "interesting" to see how they respond, if by "interesting" it is meant "nerve-wracking".
I'd argue that we've been pushing the situation closer to war as much as they have though.
As it stands, its so tense in the Persian Gulf, a bundle of red balloons
context could probably set off a war.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Jul 19th 2019 at 3:31:45 PM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerIs it just me, or has today sucked a bit more than the average for the past timeframe?
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Which is why the "filibuster has never saved good laws" argument is disingenuous, the filibuster itself isn't normally the cause of death, rather it is a delaying tool to allow another cause of death to happen.
Edited by Imca on Jul 19th 2019 at 1:39:20 AM
@That news about not letting in a single refugee next year.
I've suspected as much for a long time now, but this cinches it: Republicans are really trying to make America into a more inhospitable and awful place than the countries those people are trying to escape. Their endgoal really is for the refugees to look at their current situation, and look at America, and say "yeah, my life sucks here, but that country would be even worse".
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Which is why the "filibuster has never saved good laws" argument is disingenuous, the filibuster itself isn't normally the cause of death, rather it is a delaying tool to allow another cause of death to happen.
This argument doesn't work on several levels.
If we look at a timeline for the ACA repeal
you'll notice that the only mentions of the filibuster were Republican (successful) efforts to avoid it. So it's not correct to suggest that the reason the repeal attempt was in the news for an extended period of time was because of the filibuster.
Furthermore, even if you were correct and the filibuster was part of the reason the public had time to get angry about it your argument is still nonsensical. People supported the ACA, they would not magically stop supporting it if the Republicans removed it. So in a hypothetical world in which the Republicans took advantage of the lack of a filibuster to remove the ACA, there still would've been the same backlash and they would either back down or face the electoral consequences.
So this is not a convincing argument in favor of keeping the filibuster, especially when one considers the reform it will stop in 2020 if we choose to embrace timidity and keep it.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 19th 2019 at 2:18:37 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThere is no backing down if its already done is the point of it, the public would not have time to get angry because most of them are incredibly uninformed without the issue taking up the news cycle for days.
And besides, this shit always backfires, we have demonstrable examples in that under democratic majority the rules for supreme court justices was changed to a simple majority.
As a result we had literaly no method to stop a fucking rapist from taking the seat, and STILL had the original seat stolen.
And besides, this shit always backfires, we have demonstrable examples in that under democratic majority the rules for supreme court justices was changed to a simple majority.
As a result we had literaly no method to stop a fucking rapist from taking the seat, and STILL had the original seat stolen.
Your first claim is laughably false, removing the ACA would've deprived millions of people of their healthcare. There is no world even slightly similar to our own in which that would not have a considerable blowback.
Furthermore, I don't consider the possibility of it backfiring to possibly be worth the cost of not removing it. We simply cannot afford a minimum of eight years of nothing being accomplished, we have to remove the filibuster to do the structural change that is deeply necessary.
There is no alternative.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangYou cant say it would be 8 years of nothing getting done, just look at the amount of atrocities this administration has been able to do with it.... hell we don't even know we would get 8.
Rather its an important protection for when those 4-8 years are over, and ANOTHER trump gets elected, things don't get even worse.
Too much is already lost each time these people get elected, and they will get elected agian.... multiple times.... to just hand them free reign when they do, and worse its a lot easier to do damage then it is to fix it.
Edited by Imca on Jul 19th 2019 at 2:31:43 AM
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Yeah, that’s how these things operate. Though ironically, in my case, these atrocities are often the only things that are able to make me feel anything substantial.
I probably should have something done about that.
Anyway, what if the filibuster’s removal was used to overhaul the first-past-the-post election system? That should prevent a republican hold on the senate for an extended period of time. But is that even within the scope of the law?
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Antifa “terrorism” largely amounts to tossing milkshakes at alt right journalists and slashing tires on ICE vehicles. Crimes, yes. But not even close to terrorism.