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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#285126: Jul 17th 2019 at 7:18:20 AM

I'm hearing the judges blocked the law due to his racist comments,which actually makes sense,talk about shooting yourself in the foot donnie!

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#285127: Jul 17th 2019 at 7:35:01 AM

The thing about this whole controversy is, even if one is being incredibly charitable and doesn't think Trump's comments were specifically racist, they were still horrible, callous things to say and underneath the office of president.

And I don't want to hear the overused excuse "He's just fighting back!" That's not the president's job.

Edited by speedyboris on Jul 17th 2019 at 10:10:21 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#285128: Jul 17th 2019 at 7:48:11 AM

Trump feels a bit like the Galactic Empire.

It's not that his latest atrocity is any more heinous than the previous or that people aren't fighting back.

It's just that if he loses this one, he'll be back next week with a fresh horror.

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#285129: Jul 17th 2019 at 8:18:39 AM

Yes, that is what happens when terrible people hold power. The more power you give a terrible person, the greater that person's capacity for being terrible on a consistent basis.

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#285130: Jul 17th 2019 at 8:39:15 AM

The thing about this whole controversy is, even if one is being incredibly charitable and doesn't think Trump's comments were specifically racist, they were still horrible, callous things to say and underneath the office of president.

More than that, they are authoritarian. Even without the race thing, "if you don't like it here then go away" is a thing dictators say. Shit, it was literally the slogan of my country's military regime. Devoid of racism, it is still a very concerning statement.

Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#285131: Jul 17th 2019 at 8:55:24 AM

Something to note is that the Real loss for Trump here is that he interrupted the Democrats while they were in the middle of bad press.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#285133: Jul 17th 2019 at 11:13:38 AM

Great, now if my graduate school program could find a way to take their name off as well.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#285134: Jul 17th 2019 at 11:24:23 AM

More than that, they are authoritarian. Even without the race thing, "if you don't like it here then go away" is a thing dictators say. Shit, it was literally the slogan of my country's military regime. Devoid of racism, it is still a very concerning statement.
It's also incredibly hypocritical. The guy ran on "the U.S. is a terrible place, it was better back in the day".

Edited by speedyboris on Jul 17th 2019 at 1:25:00 PM

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#285135: Jul 17th 2019 at 11:31:14 AM

Trump's position is that he's kept his promise and made America great again. He's been kicking around "Keep America Great" as his 2020 slogan.

So you see, badmouthing the country in 2016 was okay, but doing it now that Trump made it great again is literally treason. That's the logic.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#285136: Jul 17th 2019 at 11:37:49 AM

Oh look, more suffering from Paul's libertarian BS.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#285137: Jul 17th 2019 at 11:49:11 AM

I suppose someone needed to find a use to that.

Christ, I can't believe I've spent money on that back then.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#285138: Jul 17th 2019 at 12:15:22 PM

Huh, apparently Warren introduced a bill that would increase access to SNAP benefits for College students, with Kamala Harris as a co-sponsor. Pretty sure every Grad student in the US would rejoice if that thing got passed. It won't, because Turtle's gotta Turtle, but still a nice thought.

Adding the relevant text for context:

The bill addresses concerns raised by a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report released earlier this year which found that more than 30 percent of college students may face food insecurity.

Additionally, almost 2 million at-risk students who are potentially eligible for SNAP did not receive benefits in 2016.

A survey by Temple University released in May confirmed concerns over college students' access to food.

Forty-five percent of the nearly 86,000 two- and four-year college students surveyed said they'd experienced "limited or uncertain availability of nutritionally adequate and safe food, or the ability to acquire such food in a socially acceptable manner" in the 30 days before being surveyed.

Edited by ironballs16 on Jul 17th 2019 at 3:58:32 PM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#285139: Jul 17th 2019 at 12:19:32 PM

Goodbye, week-long ramen diets.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#285140: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:02:59 PM

And Jesus tapdancing Christ, new data regarding opiates was released yesterday, and it is horrifying. Emphasis added.

Drug makers and distributors flooded the US with more than 75bn opioid pills in the crucial years when the country’s epidemic of painkiller addiction and deaths surged to record levels, according to previously secret data released by an American court.

The publication of the Drug Enforcement Administration statistics is a blow to some of the country’s biggest pharmaceutical firms that have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in out of court settlements in part to keep sealed evidence that they profiteered from escalating demand for opioids even as public health officials were declaring an epidemic.

The database covers '2006 to 2012 when opioid prescriptions reached a peak of 282m a year, enough to supply every American adult with a month’s worth of pills. By then, annual sales of narcotic painkillers had surged past $8bn.

...

Deliveries of the two most common opioids, hydrocodone and oxycodone, escalated by more than 50% in the years covered by the database, to 12.6bn pills in 2012 alone, an analysis of the DEA numbers by the Washington Post found.

By then the federal agency the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had declared a public health crisis because of the surging death toll from overdoses. Some of the largest increases in sales were to parts of the country already devastated by opioids.

Nearly nine out of 10 of the pills were manufactured by subsidiaries of three pharmaceutical multinationals – Mallinckrodt, Endo and Actavis, since renamed Allergan.

The article has more, but I think that speaks volumes.

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#285141: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:06:07 PM

The opioid crisis is a staggering example of unchecked, unregulated corporate greed that is literally killing people by the thousands.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 17th 2019 at 4:06:28 AM

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#285142: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:17:41 PM

Remember: corporate crime can kill thousands with no one arrested, while $100 of weed can get you locked away for years.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#285143: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:19:19 PM

People I know have been killed by it and others had a long road of recovery from addiction.

The fact they can do this *AND* bilk the public of massive amounts for life-saving drugs is insane.

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#285144: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:19:58 PM

If a company kills even one person, that company should be shut down and dissolved immediately and entirely.

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#285145: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:23:27 PM

[up] That's extreme and unreasonable. However, systematic issues like this are absolutely unconscionable.

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#285146: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:25:09 PM

[up] That. That kind of extreme rhetoric is completely and utterly counterproductive and only serves to make a side looking for reasonable control and regulation look bad.

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#285147: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:31:50 PM
Thumped: Extreme positions are not tolerated here. We don't care if they're sincere or you're just trolling. Either way, the forums don't need this sort of thing.
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#285148: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:32:20 PM

> If a company kills even one person, that company should be shut down and dissolved immediately and entirely.

If that company was called Mafia inc I'd agree but companies don't set out to kill people,obviously they should be fined and punished and someone should be jailed for the tragic loss of life,but when its entire company,your talking about the livelyhoods of loads of people,do they all deserve the same fate for at least one person's fuck up?

It goes back to 'business aren't people' so you can't jail and fine every single person like they're all the same guy

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 17th 2019 at 8:33:25 AM

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#285149: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:34:48 PM

[up]

In fairness, that would be the logical conclusion of Corporate Personhood - if I killed a someone by hitting them with my car, I'd still be sent to jail on Manslaughter, barring extenuating circumstances (e.g. the collision happened at a blind intersection). Not agreeing with it, but it does suck that Corporations are able to get all the positive aspects of "personhood" with none of the drawbacks.

Well, hopefully Mike Kelly (R-PA) gets the boot next election, as he defended Trump's tweet by saying - "You know, they talk about people of color. I'm a person of color. I'm white. I'm an Anglo Saxon. People say things all the time, but I don't get offended."

I don't think we even have a trope for that level of bullheadedness, do we?

Edited by ironballs16 on Jul 17th 2019 at 4:41:26 AM

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#285150: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:41:38 PM

The thing I find really ironic with Conway's remarks today (namely, this bit where she asks a reporter his ethnicity before clarifying that she's Irish/Italian) is this - both groups were marginalized in much the same manner as those from Central and South America are now.

And she has a Welsh surname, which means her husband has some Welsh ancestry in his lineage somewhere. (It comes from a Welsh river.)

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