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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#284651: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:25:10 PM

In simple terms:

"The people who complain loudest about free speech are usually the most offended by those who talk about the rights of others to complain about racism, homophobia, and privilege."

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 9th 2019 at 1:25:41 AM

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#284652: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:27:06 PM

The "FREE SPEECH1111" debacle is just one facet of the greater libertarian ideal of "liberty and justice for ME! And only me!"

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jul 9th 2019 at 4:27:18 AM

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#284653: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:27:56 PM

There is absolutely nothing contradictory with viewing bussing as necessary in the 60's and 70's and viewing it as unnecessary or suboptimal now.

Harris has proposed a $100 billion plan to increase minority home ownership, so it's not like she's abandoned addressing racial inequality.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#284654: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:28:36 PM

Increasingly, my view of the libertarian ideal of "gun and land where I am king" seems like code for, "I hope society falls because I assume I will Rape Pillage Burn my neighbors."

Weirdly, David Brin's The Postman (the novel) explicitly was about that assumption with the caveat of racism and sexism being the driving force of "property and guns anarchism."

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 9th 2019 at 1:29:29 AM

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#284655: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:34:21 PM

[up][up]

It still reeks of insincerity to have her strike one stance during the debate to put Biden on the spot, and then basically agree with his stance just a week later.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#284656: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:36:06 PM

It still reeks of insincerity to have her strike one stance during the debate to put Biden on the spot, and then basically agree with his stance just a week later.

She attacked him for opposing bussing in the 60's while palling with segregationists, I simply don't consider that to be insincere. Her current rejection of bussing has entirely different contexts.

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#284657: Jul 9th 2019 at 1:57:14 PM

Since the Democrats are now going forward with their charges of contempt against Barr for the subpoenas over the citizenship question matter... What became of the subpoenas for the unredacted Mueller report?

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#284658: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:06:27 PM

Boy, McConnell is really angling for some Refuge in Audacity with the slave owners thing, saying: "I find myself once again in the same position as President [Barack] Obama. We both oppose reparations and we both are the descendants of slave owners."

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#284659: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:08:26 PM

Pompeo announces comission to redfine human rights headed by a former ambassador to the Vatican who rejected an honor from Notre Dame the dame year Obama made a speach on abortion rights.

Edited by tclittle on Jul 9th 2019 at 4:08:42 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#284660: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:08:31 PM

Note that Harris specifically stated during the debate that the federal government should step in on the issue of busing.

Now she's saying otherwise.

That's a blatant walkback however you look at it.

Disgusted, but not surprised
bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#284661: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:27:10 PM

The fact that Harris had to go that far back to find something to hit Biden with in the first place felt dirty to me.

In 2019, I'm not particularly concerned about what someone did half a century ago.

Harris walking it back proves my point; she dug it up to have ammo, not because she felt it was actually relevant.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#284662: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:38:58 PM

It occurred within century so its hardly playing dirty,can't expect people to simply 'forgot' about history

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#284663: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:49:32 PM

Half a century ago is your grandparents or maybe even your parents.

Oh really when?
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#284664: Jul 9th 2019 at 2:52:50 PM

Michael Che made fun of this exact "that was such a long time ago!" argument as it pertains to racial injustice in his stand-up special Michael Che Matters.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#284665: Jul 9th 2019 at 3:46:29 PM

Billionaire Tom Steyner officially announces 2020 presidential run as a Democratic candidate.

Announcement video:

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#284666: Jul 9th 2019 at 3:53:53 PM

Can we ban billionaires from running for president?We know they can just buy their way to victory

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#284667: Jul 9th 2019 at 3:55:48 PM

My first reaction to that headline is "Oh no". I don't actually know the dude, though. Should I upgrade to "Oh, God, please no"?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#284668: Jul 9th 2019 at 3:58:43 PM

I still find it amusing there's a legal age you have to be before running for president

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#284669: Jul 9th 2019 at 4:00:13 PM

[up]4x okay but why

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Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#284670: Jul 9th 2019 at 4:34:05 PM

Lets be honest though, if you had the resources wouldn't you run? I know I would.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#284671: Jul 9th 2019 at 4:36:46 PM

Nope. Because I have nothing to contribute, I don't know how the finer details of public office work, and I know I wouldn't win.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#284672: Jul 9th 2019 at 4:37:49 PM

[up][up]Absolutely not. I’d do something useful like fund voter registration drives, local races, and Senate campaigns.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#284673: Jul 9th 2019 at 4:38:12 PM

Honestly, I feel at this point he's too late to matter anyway. Unless he somehow managed to make a media blitz to get himself a ton of attention with policies that are likely to draw big support he's kinda the guy who shows up to a marathon 2 hours after the start

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#284674: Jul 9th 2019 at 4:42:35 PM

Down here in Texas I would run for state office if I had enough money. I'm not sure how the state Executive works, but the state Legislature is paid very little to the point you need an outside source of money or enough savings to last you through the regular session and any possible special sessions.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#284675: Jul 9th 2019 at 5:24:45 PM

@Soban Yeah, I would. I'm not really sure if I'm qualified, but to be fair, I don't think anyone is (the paradox of human existence is that we were made to be ruled, but were not made to rule), and if anyone's gonna screw it up, why not have it be me? If I did win (which is unlikely) it would also be interesting because I'd be the first openly autistic president.

A rule that explicitly bans billionaires from running for office is not necessarily a good idea for a few reasons:

  1. While it is true that you kind of have to buy your way into office, it is worth noting that someone who's qualified for presidency (in so much that anyone is) to begin with probably would become rich. Getting rich is a lot easier than running a country. Though to be fair being rich doesn't mean you're qualified (especially if your wealth was basically inherited), and "rich" in this context typically means "millionaires" not "billionaires" (the wealth gap between those two is non-trivial).

  2. A billionaire can just fund someone else's election anyways.

  3. In fact, the above is arguably a more pragmatic option. Being president kind of sucks, especially if you're already a billionaire, to who most of the benefits and perks of being president are redundant or even outright burdens (having to live in the White House, for example, is actually a downside to a billionaire). Incidentally, this is arguably good evidence that either A) Trump's victory was unintentional on his part, B) Trump is an idiot, or C) both.

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