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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#284426: Jul 4th 2019 at 3:56:05 PM

At point I think he feels his misdeeds are too many to bother,all that matters is the presidenty which he thinks will sweep them away,make him invincible,just like Trump

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 4th 2019 at 10:56:16 AM

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#284427: Jul 4th 2019 at 3:58:22 PM

Even if it was a long time ago, that's not the kind of attitude I would like from a national leader, who will be engaging in policies that will impact people generations down the line.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#284428: Jul 4th 2019 at 5:08:28 PM

He said Harris’ criticism “came out of nowhere” and “didn’t seem to be something at all consistent with anything I’d been accused of before.”

Is that really a beehive you want to poke, Biden? Past allegations?

It's been fun.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#284429: Jul 4th 2019 at 5:12:11 PM

Biden seems like - and most likely is, let's be honest - the type of person who never allows himself to admit when he's wrong, because it's a sign of weakness or whatever.

i'm tired, my friend
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#284430: Jul 4th 2019 at 5:14:08 PM

Man, Biden really wants to lose this primary, huh?

Thank God he's doing the work for us.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#284431: Jul 4th 2019 at 6:53:05 PM

At point I think he feels his misdeeds are too many to bother,all that matters is the presidenty which he thinks will sweep them away,make him invincible,just like Trump

Nah, I don't think that he thinks it's the wrong thing to do at all. That's why he doubled down instead of giving at least a token apology.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#284432: Jul 4th 2019 at 7:27:11 PM

biden move from the guy with the funny memes with obama to mister put-foot-on-Mouth very damn quickly isn?.

I mean I didnt think he could be sander in that category but damn I was wrong.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#284433: Jul 4th 2019 at 7:47:49 PM

[up]Biden was always Mr. Foot-In-Mouth. The only reason he's relevant is that he didn't do a bad job as VP and he went out for gay marriage before Obama did, forcing Obama to "evolve" a bit faster.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#284434: Jul 4th 2019 at 8:07:44 PM

Part of the problem with Biden is that the meme version of him as a bumbling-lovable-uncle type figure was entirely created by The Onion, and that overshadowed the actual, much more problematic, Biden.

This has been such a problem that one of the writers responsible for it apologized for his role

So essentially we have had a false view of Biden drilled into us and it was only until the primary that people began collectively looking at what kind of person Biden actually was. Hence the seemingly sudden backlash.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#284435: Jul 4th 2019 at 8:10:59 PM

I will guess that happen because Biden was a VP who job is just kinda be there, I dont think people expect him to be relevant and so shoe on mouth.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#284436: Jul 4th 2019 at 8:40:46 PM

It's the 4th of July, so for some fun, here's what all the Democrats running for president's answered when asked what their favorite comfort food is:

Cory Booker - Veggies (Note: The host, a former speech writer for Obama, thinks he's lying)

Tulsi Gabbard - Vegan cupcakes

Beto O'Rouke - Any kind of fast food

Steve Bulloch - A good hamburger

Seth Moulton - A burger

John Delany - Grilled chicken sandwich from Mc Donalds. Grilled, not fried. Two of them.

Amy Klobachur - Baked potato (Note: Which many people noted is something you can throw at people)

Michael Bennett - Italian sausage sandwich

Bill De Blasio - Pulled Pork

Andrew Yang - KIND Bars

John Hickenlooper - Little bowls of M&M's or mints

Jay Inslee - "It was M&M's but I've taken an oath to lay of the M&M's to maintain belt security."

Bernie Sanders - "Last time out, we did a trip to the West Coast and I gained three pounds in four days. So that's too much comfort food." (Note: Host - "That's not an answer but it's charming.")

Marianne Williamson - "I have no comfort food." (Note: The host is convinced she's an alien)

Pete Buttigieg - Beef jerky

Tim Ryan - Ice cream

Kirstin Gillibrand - A glass of whisky at the end of the night. (Note: Host - "This is the Gillibrand candidate problem. Almost, but a little off. I get it, alright you want a drink, fine. But that wasn't the question.")

Elizabeth Warren - Chips and guacamole

Kamala Harris - French fries

Biden - Did not answer

Julian Castro - Iced tea (Note: Host - "That's not a food!")

Eric Swalwell - Mocha coffee

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#284437: Jul 4th 2019 at 8:46:01 PM

Biden presumably didn't answer because he's old enough that he actually cannot indulge in his favorite comfort foods anymore.

Sanders too, which is why he didn't actually give an answer.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#284438: Jul 5th 2019 at 12:53:08 AM

He said Harris’ criticism “came out of nowhere” and “didn’t seem to be something at all consistent with anything I’d been accused of before.”

The hysterical woman defense. Classic.

Might even work, too. A lot of people in this country sympathize with a "Bitches be crazy, amirite?" dismissal.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 5th 2019 at 1:54:15 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#284439: Jul 5th 2019 at 12:56:32 AM

I was wondering when he'd pull that out myself.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#284440: Jul 5th 2019 at 4:29:45 AM

Of course Gabbard, Sanders, Biden and Williamson answered that the way they did. Booker is the only one who gave a remotely surprising answer.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#284441: Jul 5th 2019 at 4:49:22 AM

Well, the host did think Booker was lying about that.

And seriously Yang...KIND bars?

Edited by M84 on Jul 5th 2019 at 7:51:46 PM

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#284442: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:05:50 AM

I don't know why, but Yang's answer of KIND bars as his comfort food did nothing but remind me of soon-to-be-former UK Prime Minister Theresa May's answer to what the naughtiest thing she's ever done was: "Run through a field of wheat."

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#284443: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:06:36 AM

What the hell is a KIND bar?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#284444: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:07:24 AM

A shitty candybar masquerading as health food.

Here's their site

Edited by M84 on Jul 5th 2019 at 8:08:23 PM

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#284445: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:08:02 AM

So like, diet coke in candy form?

i'm tired, my friend
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#284446: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:09:09 AM

[up]It's basically a more expensive form of those lousy granola bars chock full of enough sugar and additives to make them no better or even worse than an actual candy bar.

Just go with a Milky Way or something.

Edited by M84 on Jul 5th 2019 at 8:09:23 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#284447: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:19:54 AM

Have a break,have a kit kat

or a Lion bar,mmmmmm

I miss the school vending machines,with the sweets and unhealthy snacks

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#284448: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:20:40 AM

[up]Look on the bright side, at least you still have Mars bars.

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#284449: Jul 5th 2019 at 8:37:15 AM

... Someone remind me why Obama thought Biden was the best choice of VP back in 2008.

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#284450: Jul 5th 2019 at 8:46:55 AM

Intelligencer: Why Did Obama Pick Biden As His Veep in the First Place?

So inevitably, those who still love Obama but increasingly mistrust Biden have to refresh their memories on a more recent matter: Why did Barack Obama pick Joe Biden as his running mate in the first place?

There’s actually no infallible way to know. Obama’s veep-selection process, begun in June of 2008 after he nailed down the nomination, and headed up by Jim Johnson (who soon gave way to Jim Hamilton), Eric Holder, and Caroline Kennedy, was very secretive. Insiders recall that 20 names were on the initial “list,” but no one has given a comprehensive list of names. Publicly, the process was for some time overshadowed by talk of a “unity ticket” with Hillary Clinton to overcome the bruises of the primary season, until Obama privately ruled it out. Later indications were that the veep finalists were, along with Biden, Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, and Virginia Governor (later senator and HRC running mate) Tim Kaine. Obama clearly wanted someone white and from the political mainstream, recognizing that the high drama of his candidacy would probably make any running mate a reassuring afterthought rather than a true partner on the campaign trail. Biden, Sebelius and Kaine were Catholics as well.

Biden’s comparative advantages were his Washington experience (Obama had been a state senator four years earlier) and his extensive foreign-policy résumé. It was probably a bonus that Biden’s son Beau had been called up for National Guard duty and would soon deploy to Iraq, given the ticket’s war-hero opponent, John Mc Cain. It also surely crossed a few minds that having run twice for president himself, Biden probably had no unexposed skeletons in his closet. The better-known skeletons we are hearing about this year don’t seem to have been taken that seriously.

By all accounts, it ultimately came down to a “coin toss” between Bayh and Biden, with Obama personally making the choice. Bayh apparently underwhelmed Obama’s key staffers in interviews with a stiff and low-energy manner, while Biden talked animatedly “about the world, the middle class, the challenges and opportunities America faced and how he could help Obama.” The final decision came down to perceived chemistry with Obama, but there was one other thing, too, which helps explain why perhaps Biden’s “baggage” was not adjudged as too heavy. This fascinating tidbit, which my colleague Gabriel Debenedetti unearthed while writing a piece on the Obama–Biden relationship, comes from the New York Times’ contemporary account of the pick based on its own sources:

The choice by Mr. Obama in some ways mirrors the choice by Mr. Bush of Dick Cheney as his running mate in 2000; at his age, it appears unlikely that Mr. Biden would be in a position to run for president should Mr. Obama win and serve two terms. Shorn of any remaining ambition to run for president on his own, he could find himself in a less complex political relationship with Mr. Obama than most vice presidents have with their presidents.

In other words, Team Obama was looking at Biden strictly as a veep, and perhaps as someone who could help out with congressional relations and international matters — but not as any sort of heir apparent or successor as leader and shaper of the Democratic Party. The assumption that Biden would be too old to run for president in 2016 is rather interesting now that he’s running four years later. But it does help explain why there was little apparent worry over Biden’s touchy history on racial issues. The Obama–Biden ticket had more than enough biracial bona fides to cover a multitude of old sins and associations.

The strong possibility that Obama and his closest advisors never intended to place an indelible kosher label on Biden’s record and outlook helps explain the 44th president’s hands-off attitude toward the 2020 nomination contest. But reminders of the shadier side of that record and outlook have given the former vice-president every incentive to snuggle up ever more closely to Obama. It could make for an uncomfortable but revealing dynamic as the voting phase of 2020 draws closer.


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