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#284176: Jul 1st 2019 at 1:29:04 AM

During some disorder in Portland over the weekend Posobiec started screaming about how the leftist crowd was mixing quick-drying cement into the milkshakes they were throwing to make them into weapons.

Problem is that cement plus sugar equals no setting.

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#284177: Jul 1st 2019 at 1:34:17 AM

When has facts and science ever stoped them before.

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#284178: Jul 1st 2019 at 2:57:03 AM

Oh yeah,I heard about that,saw headlines everywhere about Antifa attacking a conserative blogger named Andy Ngo,they've been called 'the real fascists' in one headline I'm looking at

They're not exactly doing anything to prove they're not thugs though and thats the problem,they give the left wing a bad name through their reckless actions

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#284179: Jul 1st 2019 at 3:04:59 AM

If they're limiting themselves to throwing produce and milkshakes, I'm not going to be too critical of them.

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#284180: Jul 1st 2019 at 3:14:08 AM

The headlines would have you believe they actually assaulted him,which is what's important here as the headlines are what people are going to hear

The thing with throwing milkshakes at politicians is that it's all fun and games until their over zealous bodyguards open fire,I mean that would certainly happen if it was the President for example,or worse

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#284181: Jul 1st 2019 at 3:23:30 AM

If you base your entire tactics on headlines you are essentially conceding to the Conservative Media.

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#284182: Jul 1st 2019 at 4:20:16 AM

Assault, eh? Getting a milkshake-induced dry-cleaning bill is no more "assault" than getting egged or rotten-tomatoed is.

In fact, it's arguably less so: broken egg shell shrapnel can cause anybody within range some damage, and enough rotten tomatoes are certainly not healthy to prepare. tongue

The worst a single milkshake grenade can do is... if you ingest it and you happen to be lactose intolerant. Maybe sting your eyes a bit if you were slow to react. Or, give you long term weight gain, but that's a bit more voluntary. Heck, it isn't even as much of a slimy trip hazard as a bushel of rotten veg splatting everywhere, and the plastic containers don't shatter the way eggs do.

The environment won't be happy about the plastic, but that's not assault.

Milkshakes certainly beat getting bricked, which is a much more real form of bodily assault.

Nah, it's the same old complaint of the bully when somebody attacks their ego, which they mistake to be their dignity.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Jul 1st 2019 at 3:20:43 PM

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#284183: Jul 1st 2019 at 5:16:37 AM

GOP Oregon lawmaker who threatened police during climate bill boycott hit with formal complaint – A Republican Oregon state senator is facing a formal complaint after he threatened state police following GOP lawmakers' decision to boycott a vote on a climate change bill.

Oh no. A formal complaint. That'll teach the dude who abandoned his job and threatened to murder law enforcement officers.

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#284184: Jul 1st 2019 at 5:19:51 AM

Boquist: *looks over piece of paper* What is it?

Oregon Dems: It's a well-thought out and organized list of complaints.

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#284185: Jul 1st 2019 at 5:41:24 AM

What are they supposed to do, wrap him in burlap and throw him in the lake? Come on.

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#284186: Jul 1st 2019 at 5:44:11 AM

Not caving to demands made at literal gunpoint would be a good start. We just rewarded the further radicalization of the right, clearing a path for future threats and violence.

The Oathkeepers are now a viable political force.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 1st 2019 at 6:45:14 AM

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#284187: Jul 1st 2019 at 5:53:06 AM

Boquist: *looks over piece of paper* What is it? Oregon Dems: It's a well-thought out and organized list of complaints.
"Grievances"? This state is a grievance! There should be a law against so many stuck-up tightwads living in one place!

Edited by speedyboris on Jul 1st 2019 at 7:54:51 AM

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#284188: Jul 1st 2019 at 6:18:08 AM

[up][up]Okay, while I find this as underwhelming as the next guy, the weren't ebing held at "literal gunpoint" because no actual militia was mobilized. IIRC all that happened was Bobquist or whatever his name is said "just try to catch me coppers, I'll send a militia after ya", a militia decided "hey, he's talking about us!" but didn't actually do anything.

[up][up][up]Or, you know, arrest him?

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jul 1st 2019 at 9:19:16 AM

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#284189: Jul 1st 2019 at 6:55:40 AM

Okay, while I find this as underwhelming as the next guy, the weren't ebing held at "literal gunpoint" because no actual militia was mobilized. IIRC all that happened was Bobquist or whatever his name is said "just try to catch me coppers, I'll send a militia after ya", a militia decided "hey, he's talking about us!" but didn't actually do anything.

For reference:

Threats from militia provoke shutdown at Oregon capitol, a day after GOP lawmakers fled.

Oregon’s top lawmakers will shut down the state capitol after receiving threats from militia groups, who authorities say are planning to demonstrate there in support of the 11 Republican senators who fled the state to dodge a vote on climate change.

State Senate President Peter Courtney (D) told his colleagues on Friday that Oregon State Police had informed him there was a credible threat to him, the rest of the remaining senators — all of whom are Democrats — and the building’s staff.

“It was obviously a credible threat because Sen. Courtney wouldn’t close it down for no reason,” Courtney spokeswoman Carol Currie told The Washington Post.

State police confirmed the danger in an emailed statement.

“We have been monitoring information throughout the day that indicates the safety of legislators, staff and citizen visitors could be compromised if certain threatened behaviors were realized,” wrote Capt. Timothy Fox.

The Right were able to kill a climate change bill despite a Democratic supermajority by pointing guns at the Left and making demands. They completely got away with this and not one person has been arrested.

This is a bad precedent for American democracy.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 1st 2019 at 7:56:58 AM

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#284190: Jul 1st 2019 at 7:01:17 AM

Let's not overstate matters.

The militia offered help but it wasn't accepted.

And one man made threats.

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#284191: Jul 1st 2019 at 7:29:43 AM

Latest poll shows Biden and Sanders still leading but having lower support. Harris is tied with Warren for third place now.

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#284192: Jul 1st 2019 at 7:34:15 AM

Let's not mince words, if that GOP member was black and talked like that to law enforcement, he would be dead right now. He shouldn't be shot, but he should be in lockup for a bit after that threat. Don't stand and take it, make sure white Repubs who break the law end up beholden to the law as well.

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#284193: Jul 1st 2019 at 7:40:10 AM

I can’t think of a solution that wouldn’t backfire in the opposite hands, but it’d be so much easier if dems pulled an equivalent of what McConnel did for Gorsuch’s confirmation and rewrite the rules so that the republicans can’t force a measure to be unable to go through when the dems not only have a majority, but a supermajority.

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#284194: Jul 1st 2019 at 9:19:11 AM

There's an argument that if the other side engages in constant Loophole Abuse, it is the only honorable thing to close all said loopholes, even by engaging in it yourself.

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#284196: Jul 1st 2019 at 10:16:19 AM

Wonderful, coupled with the 10% drop of support things are looking quite bad for the Biden campaign and quite good for the Warren/Harris campaign grin

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#284197: Jul 1st 2019 at 10:23:21 AM

Not surprising, pretty much everyone called him losing support after the gaffes started rolling around.

Not that it makes it any less satisfying, of course.

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#284198: Jul 1st 2019 at 10:26:00 AM

What are they supposed to do, wrap him in burlap and throw him in the lake?

Expel him and everyone else who ran from the legislator, they effectively quit, if I stopped turning up at work because I didn’t want to do my job I’d be fired.

[up]X9 Yeah, the response to credible threats like that shouldn’t be to back down, it should be to declare a state of emergency and mobilise the national guard.

Edited by Silasw on Jul 1st 2019 at 5:26:26 PM

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#284199: Jul 1st 2019 at 10:56:11 AM

... Can a senator actually be expelled?

On the subject of bringing in the National Guard, I am reminded of Eisenhower's executive order 10730 and mobilizing the 101st Airborne during the Little Rock Nine crisis.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jul 1st 2019 at 8:58:34 PM

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#284200: Jul 1st 2019 at 10:59:47 AM

My point is, I imagine making an official complaint is the first step toward taking more action. Ideally. Having a paper trail to mark the incident is one way to keep them from Ain't No Rule-ing their way out of consequences for this.

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