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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
While it may be good that people didn't end up dying, the precedent set during these events is unsustainable. Progressive reforms will be incredibly difficult to make happen if we allow armed Far-Right militias to impose their will. At some point, there is going to need to be a focus on stopping the Far-Right, including and especially violent groups.
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerI mean, the militias made some rumblings, and precisely one senator said anything about said militias. The militias didn't really do anything at all; the republican senators just waited it out elsewhere while the clock ran out. Considering that, I don't think the militias really won anything because it didn't get far beyond talk on their part. Now, the Republican senators obviously won, but again, only one of those guys was reported saying anything about militias or threatening the police.
X4 People will die because of the new choice made, instead of it being police on the streets today it will be children in preventable floods years from now, but the deaths will still happen.
I do hope it is a ruse, drop the bill then once the republicans turn up lock them inside and vote on the bill, that’s the kind of playing dirty I’m all for.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranWhen it comes to democracy, evil has a fundamental advantage over good. When self-serving politicians lock horns with compassionate ones, the lack of basic human decency is a strong edge.
- Democrats: There is a starving child. I propose we buy the child a sandwich.
- Republicans: Oh, I agree! We will buy the child a sandwich and then beat him for no reason.
- Democrats: What?! No! That's awful! Why would we do that? I'm not agreeing to that!
- Republicans: Well, I'm not agreeing to buy the sandwich without the beating. It looks like we'll agree to disagree.
- Democrats: But we haven't solved the problem.
- Republicans: Indeed, we haven't.
- Democrats: ...
- Republicans: Boy, that child sure is looking mighty hungry.
- Democrats: ...
- Republicans: Hate for him to starve to death, just because you're too stubborn to agree to my sandwich proposition.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 29th 2019 at 4:43:44 AM
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That metaphor lacks a fundamental piece of the puzzle: Democrats wouldn't need Republicans to buy a kid a sandwich, so they could just go "Fine, I'll buy the sandwich, you just stand there and pout or whatever." Sending any progressive bill to the president requires the currently Republican-controlled Senate approve it too, a sure impossibility. There is no realistic situation in which House Dems can go "You know what, fuck the Senate, we're sending our bill to Trump anyway." At least not without massive outrage from both card-carrying Rs, news media on either side, and the general public.
As long as Repubelicans control the Senate, and as long as Cocaine Mitch is the Senate Majority Leader, there will only be so much Democrats can do to unfuck the country.
Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jun 29th 2019 at 7:05:47 AM
i'm tired, my friendI don’t think Tobias was condemning democrats in Congress or even the democrats in Oregon, just pointing out that whenever a situation is such that Democrats need to work with republicans democrats will always come off the worse for wear, because Republicans are happy to stand and watch the place burn.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
That's my point, though; as of now, there's not much House and Senate Democrats in congress can get done without Senate Republican approval, and Republicans by default aren't going to sign on to anything Democrats want to do.
And let's be honest, how many people even here would approve of House Democrats acting extra-legally to bypass Senate Republicans the way Republicans do?
Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jun 29th 2019 at 7:21:58 AM
i'm tired, my friendJust a thing here: Is not lack of human decency, is polarization, as far republican is concern, to cave of ANTYHING the dems made is already throw the towel and leting them do their uber evil liberal rule therefore they need to be in charge, yes is kind of a self serving razionalie but it exist, the republican have become part of their own narrative a long time ago.
To make thing easier to understand in tobias analogy, if they buy the child a sanwich, them the dem will ask another thing and another and soon you will have the uber pink-comunism before you know it.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
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Another aspect of polarization(sorry but is the topic of my thesis in political science): it dosent just mean to tie the people to one aspect of a party or political actor(so being republican dosent mean just being conservative or tradiciona, it means you are the guardian of all that), but tie againts someone in this case the dems, the left and liberal in thar order.
as venezuelan I can tell you: the republican think in a way pretty similar to chavismo, even if both party are far away of the political spectrum, radicalization is a hell of a thing.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Judge blocks Trump from using billions in military funds for border wall – A federal judge on Friday issued a ruling blocking the Trump administration from tapping billions of dollars in military funds to construct a wall on the United States's southern border.
Trump consultant behind mock Joe Biden election website
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/451029-trump-consultant-behind-mock-joe-biden-election-website
Patrick Mauldin told The New York Times that the site he created, Joe Biden.info, is intended to help Democrats “face facts.”
He told the newspaper that he did not put his name on it because “people tend to dismiss things that they don’t like, especially if it comes from the opposite side."
Mauldin said he built and paid for the website himself and that it is not related to the campaign, although the campaign knows about it.
“We think it’s great that talented supporters of President Trump use their own time to help his re-election,"Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh told The Hill in a statement Saturday.
“We appreciate their efforts in their own time with parodies like this that help the cause,” he said, though he did not directly address Mauldin's website according to the paper.
The website features GI Fs of Biden touching women and children as well as information about his policies that might not be seen as liberal today such as his support for the Iraq War and the 1994 crime bill.
"Uncle Joe is back and ready to take a hands-on approach to America’s problems!" said the top of the site.
"This site is political commentary and parody of Joe Biden's Presidential campaign website," said the site if users scroll to the bottom. "This is not Joe Biden's actual website. It is intended for entertainment and political commentary only."
Biden campaign spokesman T.J. Ducklo told The Times that it knew about the site, but not who was behind it.
“Imagine our surprise that a site full of obvious disinformation,” he said, “is the handiwork of an operative tied to the Trump campaign,” he said.
Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 30th 2019 at 1:04:01 PM
I have a few vox articles to share for dicussion's sake. The first of which is about women and their unique advantage aganst President Toxic Masculinity
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So for some Americans, the debates this week weren’t just a test of who was the best candidate. They were also a test of whether a woman could really win.
By any measure, Harris and other female candidates passed. As Vox’s Ezra Klein wrote, Harris “tore into Biden’s comments about segregationists and his record on busing in a way that left him sputtering onstage, and that carried the meta-message that she’d be able to confront Trump with the same cool precision.” She also cut through her opponents’ interruption-fest on education with a lighthearted jibe — “America does not want a food fight, they want to know how we’ll put food on their table” — that made her look like the adult in the room.
But other female candidates had strong showings too. Sen. Amy Klobuchar won applause when she took Gov. Jay Inslee to task for saying he was the only candidate to have achieved something on abortion rights. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand made an impact with her comments on the Hyde Amendment, which bans federal funding for most abortions. Sen. Elizabeth Warren showed the calm and clear grasp of policy that has been her trademark, and Wednesday night’s debate was essentially a referendum on her plans.
Any of the female candidates onstage this week could probably perform well in a debate against Trump, up to and including Marianne Williamson, who would probably out-weird him.
And in all their cases, their gender wouldn’t be a stumbling block they’d have to get over to beat Trump onstage. It would actually help them.
As for the other articles:
- Marrianne Williamson
apparently represents a demographic that is spiritual but not religious.
- the Supreme Court's tentative term had just ended
. The article describes that abortion (unsurprisingly) is in the court's crosshairs, and so are some of the checks and balances by cedeing their power to look into gerrymandering cases and going after the regulatory state.
- Prolly already been discussed before but the murderer of Heather Heyer, injurer of counter-protesters and participant of the alt-right rally in Charlottesville
has been given a life sentence.
- And it turns out that Democrats
mostly ignored the issue of Puerto Rico. Only Julian Castro mentioned it at all nd that was only once.
She also represents anti-vaxxers and anti-intellectual vapid idiots, I'd rather not have a left-wing Trump.
I realize you aren't saying otherwise, but that article is entirely too positive and really should've mentioned her massive issues as a candidate.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

Its a ruse to get the Republican senitors,they'll return only for the doors to locked and the Democrats change their minds
have a listen and have a link to my discord server