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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#283726: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:09:24 PM

I admittedly checked out about halfway through, but I think I got a feel for everyone. For the ones who left a distinct impression one way or the other, O'Rourke seemed the most "blah" to me.

But that's of the ones who were even distinct to begin with.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#283727: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:09:56 PM

Warren and Castro did best IMO. De Blasio is a filthy hypocrite if you check his record against what he said; NYC twitter was... not pleased. Gabbard (did you know she’s a veteran??? She only mentioned it in EVERY response), Ryan, and Delaney annoyed me the most.

EDIT: off the top of my head, he kept bringing up his black son when he STILL has done very little to reduce racism in the NYPD. Eric Garner was on his watch.

Edited by wisewillow on Jun 26th 2019 at 8:15:23 AM

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#283728: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:11:33 PM

[up]Is there a quick summary of DeBlasio's record I can look up?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#283729: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:11:39 PM

[up][up]The most notable contradictions?

Edited by LSBK on Jun 26th 2019 at 10:12:08 AM

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#283730: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:12:04 PM

If the next debate threshold is anywhere above 5%, Gabbard will probably be locked out.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#283731: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:16:45 PM

Eh, Gabbard could easily see a bump considering the tensions with Iran and Russia. Her military cred would do her a lot of good in light of that, and I'm sure she and/or her team knows it. She seemed to be pretty well focused when it was her turn to speak, and I think Klobuchar was the only woman up there that was (consistently) jostling for a chance to speak before being called on - Deblasio was the worst of the bunch when it came to that, though, with Delaney not far after him.

It's understandable, I admit, but still not the best look.

Edited by ironballs16 on Jun 26th 2019 at 11:17:14 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#283732: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:17:33 PM

Gabbard has been consistently at 0-3%; usually 0%. Hopefully she doesn’t get a bump.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#283733: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:18:07 PM

Calling it now:

Biden/O'Roarke for 2020.

Campaign Slogan: "Partying like it's 1920."

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#283734: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:26:10 PM

My nightmare scenario is Biden/Gabbard. Unlikely given the polls and the political differences, but that is the worst scenario I can imagine.

[up]A more likely team is Biden/Buttigieg. Which would also be pretty shitty.

Edited by M84 on Jun 26th 2019 at 11:27:26 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#283735: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:28:33 PM

Apparently, Gabbard's been getting a lot of search traffic - moreso than everyone else, in fact.

That said, who knows what they'll think of what they find, and I personally don't think she was invigorating in the same way that Warren, Castro and Booker were, so we'll see what happens there.

[up] I'm curious to see what will happen with Buttigieg tomorrow. I fully expect the police shooting in South Bend to come up, and I wonder how exactly he'll respond.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Jun 26th 2019 at 11:30:24 AM

Oh God! Natural light!
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#283736: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:36:09 PM

I hope that is the last I see of Gabbard. I cannot abide someone who abides evil for the sake of selfish peace only for the US, damn everything else. One can get out of stupid wars without cheerleading the likes of Assad.

My winners, in no order: Castro, Booker, Klobuchar, Warren, Inslee.

Castro because he took the best advantage of the platform and came off as competent, compassionate, and charismatic. Warren was fine, but she kinda petered out toward the end, but she did enough not to hurt herself. Klobuchar was generally okay as a bearer of the moderates, but no break out moments other than calling out Inslee. Some good zingers. Booker was going very much by the Obama playbook and he did it well. Inslee was simply a surprise for actually having positions on issues that weren't climate change.

Losers:

Gabbard for reasons already stated. Delaney for having no charisma, didn't seem to pay attention to the moderators questions, and being well...a bit thirsty. de Blasio came off like a raging jackass. Ryan was woefully unprepared for anything beyond workers rights. He lost to friggin Gabbard of all people. Man sounded like a moron at times. Beto. Ohh dearrr goddd. This is what happens when hype goes out of control. Dude did not prove himself tonight. He needs to step aside and run for Senate while he still has likeability on his side.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#283737: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:39:15 PM

Gabbard did better than I expected. Beto did a lot worse than I expected for that matter. The first hour he basically floundered and lost his spotlight to De Blasio and then they both lost it to Delaney of all people.

Warren was the most solid, naturally. Booker and Klobacher really showed their chops.

I was very pleasantly surprised by Castro. I've listened to interviews with him a few times and he never really sounded confident or was concrete about his policies. Either I just got the few crummy interviews or he has really stepped up his game because he took that high position I was expected to go to Beto at the end.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#283738: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:41:53 PM

I think Warren was being careful not to interrupt or jump in, likely to avoid being called shrill etc. Can’t say I blame her, but I’m mad she didn’t get to talk about immigration. And Chuck Todd wasted a lot of time blathering on. Awful moderator.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#283739: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:45:15 PM

Maddow was a better moderator but to be honest I thought Lester Holt had better questions.

EDIT-

As for Warren, I would have liked to see a real answer on Mc Connell and also an answer of some kind on Iran.

Edited by FFShinra on Jun 26th 2019 at 8:46:03 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#283740: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:45:47 PM

Nobody attacked Warren either, despite being the closest thing to a front runner in this night's debate.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#283741: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:47:01 PM

I think that was a good thing. They didn't mention Biden either. As the first debate, it gets us to know THEM, which is exactly what I wanted.

Did not mind Castro taking down wonderboy though.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#283742: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:48:28 PM

[up][up][up] I thought her answer on Mc Connell was fine. She can’t kick him out of the Senate, so basically sustained furious public pressure is the only option if we don’t get the Senate.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#283743: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:53:00 PM

But that doesn't work on Mc Connell. Either she calls out this fact that he is a more difficult obstacle than Trump himself, or call out the republicans of the senate in general. Sidestepping it doesn't come off great, just as Delaney's blind optimism doesn't.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#283744: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:58:38 PM

The post-debate stuff is on, and whoever this guy who's supposed to be interviewing her keeps cutting her off.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#283745: Jun 26th 2019 at 9:00:00 PM

What an unfitting commercial that was.

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#283746: Jun 26th 2019 at 9:18:13 PM

I missed half of this, so I'm playing catch up...

I'd concur with the others here and say that Castro, Warren, and Booker stood out the most (Klobuchar got in a few good lines in as much as I disagree with her). Booker especially gets points in my book for specifically calling out (what else? I'm rather predictable) the lack of focus on Trans POC being murdered. So, although he's not my favorite candidate, he's certainly got my attention now.

The one thing of note I saw from Inslee though, he kinda acted like an arrogant jerk before Klobuchar gave on of my favorite zingers I've seen since at least 2016. Which is a shame, I was kinda hoping he'd bring some attention to climate change issues.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Jun 26th 2019 at 12:20:11 PM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#283748: Jun 26th 2019 at 9:29:16 PM

Doesn't surprise me, just reminds me of that one time Bannon said he really liked her.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#283749: Jun 26th 2019 at 9:30:00 PM

[up][up]Didn't you know, she's a darling of the right wing media. In addition to dictators. She books Fox gigs allllll the time too.

Edited by FFShinra on Jun 26th 2019 at 9:30:19 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#283750: Jun 26th 2019 at 9:30:14 PM

Really really hoping she doesn't make it to the next round.

But yeah, not really surprised by this either. She's always been a horrible piece of shit human being. And shit sticks together.

Edited by M84 on Jun 27th 2019 at 12:30:59 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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