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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
@Tobias Pelosi has admitted that she wants Trump in jail, that’s her end goal, I get that you disagree with her about the best way to achieve it, but she’s made it clear that this shouldn’t end with Trump walking free.
If we win in 2020 with Pelosi’s strategy than Trump goes to jail, the debate isn’t about the desired outcome, it’s about how we get there.
As I said, I’m not convinced that this isn’t a bunch of theatre, Pelosi sitting on this for a month and only now giving in created a very strong media image that she doesn’t want to challenge Trump, yet that’s happening anyway now via Nadler. Either Pelosi isn’t as in control as people think, or there’s been a careful plan here to create an image of the restrained stateswomen who gets pulled to action not because she wants power but because Nadler and the public have clamoured for it.
Edited by Silasw on Jun 7th 2019 at 7:57:24 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
In theory.
It's a bit more complicated than pushing a button, as he soon found out. He'd have nuked things long ago, if not because his "Deep State" advisors explained to him why he couldn't just do that.
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This is the relevant tweet - For all of the money we are spending, NASA should NOT be talking about going to the Moon - We did that 50 years ago. They should be focused on the much bigger things we are doing, including Mars (of which the Moon is a part), Defense and Science!
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"If Trump actually puts up a research and innovation grants programme on par with that used to shoot for the Moon, I will eat my hat. That is what would MAGA. It would MA so G.
I mean, it'd still be a crapsack country as long as economic inequality and lack of social mobility remain.
But it'd be a G, innovative crapsack country. MAGICC!
Edited by Oruka on Jun 7th 2019 at 2:11:11 AM
https://www.curbed.com/2017/9/6/16253932/gary-indiana-redevelopment-architecture
I think it's interesting to share a story about the Rust Belt done with photo evidence and the dying city of Gary,Indiana for a talk about how the former manufacturing element of the country has suffered as well as why their votes are pretty much the swing states.
Clinton chose not to campaign in the Rust Belt and it pretty much is one thing you could say that cost her the election as if she'd won them, she would be in the White House.
But in photo journalist terms, this is just a stark and unforgiving look at just what kind of economic devastation many Americans deal with.
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Pretty sure it is far more difficult than people give it credit for, considerimg we didn't.
I think the opposite is true. People lost interest in space because space exploration wound down, not the other way around.
Although space is indeed very, very hard, as Andy Weir and The Expanse so lovingly show. Space is frightening, unglamourous, hostile, complex, huuuuuuuge, and a massive difficulty spike from, say, colonizing "the Frontier" or "the Jungle" or "the Outback".
A lot of us agree that maybe we need to solve sustainability on Earth before thinking of Expanding. We also need to solve, well, society. You wouldn't want the likes of Elon Musk to try making Rapture on the Moon or Mars and getting a lot of people killed and equipment destroyed in the process.
Has anyone written a sci-fi story that amounts to "Fyre festival, except on the Moon"?
Edited by Oruka on Jun 7th 2019 at 2:53:55 AM
@Hail Muffins: It's basically accurate to describe a mission to Mars "technologically infeasible" to some degree. The moon is close enough for it not to matter, but the problem is that spending prolonged periods of time in space is severely dangerous to one's health. There's ways around this, but they're still in development and aren't yet practical.
@Oruka: To be fair, saying we need to fix Earth up before colonizing space is, in my opinion, missing the point. Colonizing space is how we fix Earth-a lot of problems are caused by humanity having to pee in the same lake it drinks from. Or to put it another way: nobody sane says "we should stop cancer research until we fix society".
Leviticus 19:34Bit of a Non Sequitur there. Space colonization will literally consist of everyone pissing in the same sanitation recycling system, over, and over, and over again. If we put space colonization before earth sustainability, we may well end up gambling our species' future into trash planethood. As for cancer, I would say that malnutrition, diabetes, heart disease, and infectious diseases, are much more of a priority, in terms of death caused, and effects on quality of life. But cancers are oh so much more dramatic!
I'll even go "too" far and argue this: we're all going to die someday. Who cares how long we live, if we aren't happy?
Just remove the part where he thinks the Moon and Mars share parts, and you get a more comprehensible tweet. I too am surprised that we haven't made a human landing on Mars by now.
The problem is that a round mars trip takes years because you can only make a fuel effecient pass between planets when they are at certian orbital positions. The other options are hugely impractical amounts of fuel.... Or nuclear rockets.
None of which people want to touch, its much different then with a rover, for which only needs to make a 1 way trip and doesn't need to loiter a couple years for a return window...
NASA itself when the did studies into it, which they did back when we were doing maned space travel came to the conclusion that using NERVA rockets would be a requirement....
But good luck selling people on using a nuclear reactor to flash boil liquid ammonia (hydrogen is another option, but storing it is very hard for mars mission durations) now a days.
That's the problem with sending people to Mars, not so much the getting to Mars part, but how do we get them home before they run out of consumables.
Edited by Imca on Jun 7th 2019 at 3:40:35 AM
House Dems Preparing Investigation of Rudy Giuliani for Ukraine Shenanigans – The president’s lawyer says he welcomes the scrutiny and plans to turn it to his advantage
Oh, I'm 99% sure he's saying that the moon thing they're doing is a stepping stone to a better Mars program. He's not saying the moon is part of Mars.
Leviticus 19:34

What did you expect from a guy that believes in "clean coal"?
Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.