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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Or to at least stop using Atlanta for California Doubling as many companies do nowadays.
It's not the first time that Hollywood has threatened to pull out of Georgia either.
Edited by megaeliz on May 29th 2019 at 1:48:25 PM
US energy department rebrands fossil fuels as 'molecules of freedom' – Press release from department said increasing export capacity is ‘critical to spreading freedom gas throughout the world
@LSBK: More to the point, they're an ex-Republican, and it's fucking embarrassing (as another one) to see the GOP's "principled objections" die because movie money got involved. If you believe that a fetus is a person and that abortion is murder (and reasonable people can disagree on this), then you should damn well stand by your principles instead of deciding that it's more important to have the latest Netflix original series filmed in your state. It's just more proof that the GOP's "pro-life" stance is built on misogyny and vote-grabbing, and not actual principled beliefs.
(Nothing against Disney and Netflix' actions here - the sin is all on the Georgia GOP if they cave.)
@Red Savant @LSBK I dislike the 'pro-life' label (too easy for someone to say "if you call yourself 'pro-life' why do you support x policy that involves death?"), but I'm definitely very strongly anti-abortion, even by the standards of most Republicans. In fact, I'm rather critical of the Republican party for being too moderate on the issue.
Leviticus 19:34All I'm going to say, is that this bill will certainly not help Georgia's Dismal Maternal morality rate
, particularly among Woman of Color.
- 12.7 deaths per 100,000 live births for white women.
- 43.5 deaths per 100,000 live births for black women.
- 14.4 deaths per 100,000 live births for women of other races.
People who believe it's wrong, and support evidence based practices that are actually shown to reduce it, such as comprehensive sex education, and free access to different forms of birth control, I can respect. What I can't respect, is the hypocrisy of people who say they are against it, while defunding social services, and refusing to take steps that actually work to help prevent unwanted pregnancies.
Edited by megaeliz on May 29th 2019 at 2:01:08 PM
My beef with the Republican Party at the moment is less their official goals (I have disagreements with their stance on LGBT issues and immigration) and more that they've gone into full Tautological Templar mode. It's the apotheosis of redoubling your efforts while forgetting your aim.
Basically, the Republicans have kind of lost their identity aside from being the anti-Democrats (and have demonized Democrats to a laughable degree). They're no longer even thinking about their actual agenda, just seeing what the Democrats want and doing the opposite. They can justify any policy on the basis that it's not what the Democrats want. Case and point: Donald Trump was often defended by saying "at least they're not Hillary".
This is why, by the way, compromising with the GOP won't really work for the DNC. The GOP is currently defined by contrarianism. They don't really want anything specific, other than to say "no" to the Democrats.
Leviticus 19:34Free market is, of course, an awful idea.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.And yes, a regulated free market is still a free market.
A free society doesn't stop being free just because laws exist.
No, that principle when applied to the market simply means that if someone finds a need or a desire not currently being fulfilled, they will take the opportunity to be first to fill it.
Suffice to say, it's actually a lot more complex than both its detractors and its most ardent ideologues think of it. The hardcore Communists and the idiotic lolbertarians are both off the mark.
Edited by M84 on May 31st 2019 at 3:05:25 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Let's not be advocating state-run economies here. Command economies don't tend to work out very well.
Besides, I certainly don't think that things would improve if people like Trump or Mc Connell had even more influence over the market.
Edited by M84 on May 31st 2019 at 3:15:48 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Honestly, it's a lot more nuanced than a lot of people give it credit for.
The free market system works best for consumer goods and luxuries. It provides incentives to innovate and improve products and experiences for the consumer, and gives people choice.
Where the free market fails, is on necessities, such as healthcare or education. All those things that are strengths now become weakness.
(I'm too tired to be particularly articulate tonight)
Edited by megaeliz on May 30th 2019 at 3:22:02 PM

It's that "heartbeat" ban thing. Which effectively makes it so that women can only have an abortion six weeks or less into the pregnancy. Which is a problem considering women often don't even know they are pregnant at that time.
It's not like women can instantly sense when some guy's swimmers made a landing.
Disgusted, but not surprised