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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It doesn't.
And?
There's only 40,000 jobs related to coal in the state of West Virginia and that's one of the biggest. The job should be to replace all of those and add them. Until then, they should support the industry until they have an alternative.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Uh, Climate Change is an existential threat.
Supporting the Coal industry because voters are morons is an absolutely terrible idea.
I'm all for a Federal jobs guarantee but no thank you.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangLuckily, the Legislative session ended on Monday, but Abbott may end up calling a special session. He hasn't been threatening it, but you never know.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."The only way they will accept the alternative is by convincing them that "King Coal" is dead.
The alternative has not been particularly well articulated or shown to be effective as well as providing for their families. There will be resistance no matter what but an argument, "This is the jobs you will have instead" and showing them is a lot more effective than, "We'll totally replace these. Honest."
I mean, in my view, the goal should be to recognize that the idea of finding a Job for every human is quickly becoming impractical, and therefore restructure society in a way that makes working optional.
But, that said, they have been doing what you suggested. I remember in one of the debates, when asked about exactly this issue, Hillary said something along the lines of 'well, we'll need to transition into renewable energy, and that means a lot of labour will need to be put into restricting our infrastructure in a way that allows that, and then we'll need people making sure all the new stuff works, so that will create a lot of jobs.'
Yes, vague promises and maybes.
Hillary's economics plan was also based on expanding the benefit of the Middle Class. The people who didn't have jobs and were destitute would not have benefited from it save in the most indirect way. It's why no one trusted her on economic matters.
And yes, keeping King Coal alive for those tiny amount of jobs makes perfect sense until you have, "We're building X number of power plants" as a plan in writing.
I remember an argument where a Democrat friend of mine said that independent farming was completely impractical and had no reason to continue to exist.
My response was, "And why should any farmer ever vote for you?"
His answer? "Because mine is the future."
"A future where they're living on welfare and lose their home."
Its frustrating because the Republicans are the reason this exists but the Democrats do't have a policy against them.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 28th 2019 at 10:56:31 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.The GOP's pandering to King Coal is proof that for all their talk they don't really give a shit about the free market.
The free market would let King Coal give up its crown.
John Oliver did a segment on coal, now that I think about it.
This was the one that nearly got him sued because he dared to call out the head of a coal company for being full of shit.
Edited by M84 on May 29th 2019 at 2:03:28 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedMan, are you asking Hillary to lay out a detailed and specific plan for exactly how many Power Plants are going to be built and where, and in what timeframe, all within two minutes of speaking?
Like, even if that were possible, surely it's not the kind of thing it's practical to decide before you get into office. Planning the shit is gonna take time and resources.
And it's not like she was saying 'we're gonna shut down all coal mines immediately'. She was saying 'well, there's no future in coal, so here's the kind of job I'll give you to transition into'.
Edited by Gilphon on May 28th 2019 at 2:13:40 PM
Charles the problem is that we can’t have a policy of that, because such close to the ground policy isn’t formed at a federal level, it’s formed at a state level.
Hillary pushed for rural rejuvenation as a candidate, but from a federal perspective that means giving grants to state governments to try and build up the kind of jobs you’re talking about, and guess what happens when such grants turn up? Republican state governments reject the grants.
We can’t give the rural poor in Kentucky jobs, the Kentucky government won’t let us.
In the end Hillary had a plan to help these people, she had as detailed a plan as one can have at a federal level, nobody (I suspect even you) heard about it due to a variety of reasons, but it was there.
Oh and as always I’d like to note that poor and working-class aren’t the same thing in the US, for some reason your press measure class based on education, so a college educated twenty something working at Burger King is considered middle class, while a high-school drop out in his forties who owned his own small business is considered working class.
The poor voted for Hillary, the uneducated voted for Trump, a lot of the people you see as the poor are business owners who realy aren’t, but they are uneducated.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranNo it’s a state with one blue person, the state government consists of a Republican house, a Republican senate and a Republican governor.
We can’t fix West Virginia without the cooperation of the West Virginia government, they’re not interested.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranFor the record Democrats did hold a trifecta in West Virginia until 2014, so if one wants to blame someone it’s not Hillary, it’s Obama, he could have sent help and gotten it used, well if he’d gotten that help past congress...
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranWe can’t give the rural poor in Kentucky jobs, the Kentucky government won’t let us.
They reject free money?! Can't Congress, SCOTUS, or executive orders make them?
If the money is earmarked for specific purposes, like (for example) establishing a windmill farm or something, they can't accept it without pissing off their base of voters who think that windmills cause gay cancer or whatever. It's not just a chunk of money with no riders attached, because that would vanish very fast.
It's been fun.

A lot of spies are known, but they are/were diplomatic personnel with diplomatic immunity. Best you can do is learn their movements and try to fight them off as best you can, because deporting them means they get replaced with someone you have to learn about.
And in news that surprise utterly no one, Mitch blatantly said that he would fill a SC spot during an election year, because its okay when Republicans do it.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/28/politics/mitch-mcconnell-supreme-court-2020/index.html
Edited by Rationalinsanity on May 28th 2019 at 11:37:40 AM
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