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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#281426: May 24th 2019 at 9:49:08 AM

By the time a democrat is president it will be too late too stop construction,,best you can hope is it finish quickly and not waste any more tax dollars on it

How exactly?

We can just... stop it.

Stop funding the people building it and maybe sell as scrap the bits they already created.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#281427: May 24th 2019 at 9:49:51 AM

Why would any Democrat waste money on finishing it quickly?

Especially considering the rate Trump is going. A grand total of 2 miles has been built so far.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#281428: May 24th 2019 at 9:55:15 AM

Since this border wall isn't going up and nothing has been constructed yet I just hope it never starts.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#281429: May 24th 2019 at 9:55:24 AM

And a lot of what he's claiming credit for was greenlit and planned maintenance before he was president.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#281430: May 24th 2019 at 10:01:44 AM

Put it this way,it will probably be under-constriction until a new President arrives,from there they have to decide what to do with it,people have probably been promised money to have it finished,contracts drawn up ecta,suddenly halting development might lead to a load of law suits from the people who were promised wages for building the wall and now that money won't arrive because its cancelled,obviously compensation is possible but it's complicated situation

Easiest solution is to finish the wall but dont' treat it like a diversionary wall like Trump wants

Edited by Ultimatum on May 24th 2019 at 5:02:10 PM

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#281431: May 24th 2019 at 10:27:11 AM

Payment for a project like this isn’t withheld until completion or anything but rather paid continuously. The government could simply stop paying for the construction. Or they could just tell the company to stop and return any unused funds, which happens every now and then with government contracts. The company could sue if they wanted, but the government changing its mind is always a possibility in contracts like these so I doubt they’d win.

There would be no reason whatsoever to finish the wall, basically.

Edited by archonspeaks on May 24th 2019 at 10:28:37 AM

They should have sent a poet.
Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#281432: May 24th 2019 at 10:45:18 AM

The tariffs on Chinese products aren't a good idea for the new brands planning to launch in the U.S. as this article shows.

GAC have some vehicles the U.S. would probably buy, like the GAC Trumpchi GS8 SUV or GAC Trumpchi GS7 SUV.

They'd probably drop the Trumpchi name for the U.S. market though.

Tariffs could stop them bringing in such cars, or even, given Ford's new focus on SU Vs, the Chinese-built Ford Territory which would sell well in the U.S.

Edited by Merseyuser1 on May 24th 2019 at 6:47:06 PM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#281433: May 24th 2019 at 11:13:09 AM

[up]X3 Any wall is diversionary by its nature, it would be better to pay them the money they get but have them build nothing, or pay them to tear down what has already been built instead of build more.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#281434: May 24th 2019 at 11:37:31 AM

Right,but Trump'd idea of a wall is that no one gets through,making it a deadend,under a different government it doesn't have to be one,it's still a barrier but it will at least have a gate instead of being a point of no entry or exit

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#281435: May 24th 2019 at 11:39:40 AM

Anything Trump actually builds will stand as a symbol of hatred and bigotry, it would basically be anti-statue of Liberty, telling foreigners to go away and that they’re not welcome.

Simply for the symbolism it should be ripped down, possibly used for target practise during a joint exercise by the US and Mexican militaries, that way you’d save on the costs of its deconstruction.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#281436: May 24th 2019 at 11:42:43 AM

The disaster relief bill had been stalled in the House because one Republican objected.

A Freedom Caucus member from Texas. (Chip Roy apparently.) Hands up if you saw that one coming.

The reason why is because since a lot of lawmakers are out of town due to the Memorial Day recess, legislation can be passed despite those many absences if the legislators present vote unanimously in favor of it. Roy supposedly objects to the “swampiness” of this, (despite it being a pretty common procedure) hence why it’s being held up.

I’m definitely inclined to think that this is yet another Tea Party/Trump “the cruelty is the point” type of moments. I’m making a mental note to donate some money to whoever runs against Roy in 2020.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#281438: May 24th 2019 at 11:47:39 AM

"I’m making a mental note to donate some money to whoever runs against Roy in 2020."

Good idea. I'll do the same.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#281439: May 24th 2019 at 12:41:24 PM

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2019/05/24/trump-rule-would-roll-back-discrimination-protection-for-transgender-people-health-services/FsiJRrFniOlKoUEPHHJQNO/story.html

The Trump administration is going to start removing protections for trans people when it comes to healthcare. So if a trans person is dying, they can just up and refuse to save our lives.

Now watch as just about everyone looks the other way and ignores this, like they always do when Trump targets us.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#281440: May 24th 2019 at 12:48:48 PM

That article states that this is unlikely to mean anything immediately beyond debate, is and probably going to face several challenges.

Still horrible, but saying "everyone is just going to ignore it" seems wrong.

Edited by LSBK on May 24th 2019 at 2:49:14 PM

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#281441: May 24th 2019 at 12:52:32 PM

So far this administration has managed to repeatedly roll back our legal protections, so yeah, I’m worried about this. I think I have good reason to be.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#281442: May 24th 2019 at 12:54:10 PM

I didn't say you didn't have good reason to be worried, I said saying "everyone will ignore it" was wrong. Because your own articled basically said as much.

Edited by LSBK on May 24th 2019 at 2:54:24 PM

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#281443: May 24th 2019 at 12:54:52 PM

Whee, the Supreme Court just said that Michigan and Ohio don't need to redraw their Congressional maps immediately. They'll be hearing the case in late June, but boy is that intervention not a promising outlook.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#281444: May 24th 2019 at 4:05:06 PM

People didn't ignore the transgender military ban, that's still being brought up.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#281445: May 24th 2019 at 5:29:58 PM

And wasn't it stalled in court challenges for months/years before finally getting into effect?

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#281446: May 24th 2019 at 6:12:24 PM

Yes, and it is now in effect. The bathroom bills are heading to the SCOTUS, where they very well may be allowed nation wide. And the administration is rolling back protections on employment, shelter access, and now medical treatment.

There’s pushback, but not enough to stop them.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#281447: May 24th 2019 at 6:16:43 PM

Again, the point wasn't that you or anyone else doesn't have to worry about anything, just that your retort of "no one will care/do anything" was inaccurate. Because it was.

It seems like people have in general been good on jumping on the things Trump's administration has been trying to do, even if a lot of it still happens because we unfortunately have much power at the moment.

Edited by LSBK on May 24th 2019 at 8:17:01 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#281448: May 24th 2019 at 6:19:06 PM

Yeah there’s a difference between “people try and stop it but are overpowered because the Republicans have control over most of the country and most of government” and “everyone looks the other way and ignores this“.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#281449: May 24th 2019 at 11:25:46 PM

A Federal judge has blocked some of Trump's Emergency Declaration to build his wall.

Specifically, the injunction blocks Trump from stealing funds that were meant for drug busting to build his wall.

According to the judge: "The position that when Congress declines the Executive's request to appropriate funds, the Executive nonetheless may simply find a way to spend those funds 'without Congress' does not square with fundamental separation of powers principles dating back to the earliest days of our Republic,"

Edited by Parable on May 24th 2019 at 11:26:11 AM

Mr_Madman Almighty Janitor from Eagleland, World of Badass Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: Brony
Almighty Janitor
#281450: May 25th 2019 at 2:12:54 AM

I’m just ready to be done with Trump, especially since the presidential election was a Sadistic Choice to many Americans, including myself, a person who would prefer to defend the rights of people as a whole.

This is going to be amplified even more in the coming year since I usually lean considerably libertarian. There is a need for government, but when it infringes or fails to uphold the rights of its citizens, that government has got to go. And personally, that line was crossed years ago when it started with failing to consider a vetting process to avoid deportation over just being here, and not because it is also a waste of resources.

Wait a second: How on earth did I even get here?

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