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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#280551: May 14th 2019 at 10:20:04 AM

[up] Pretty sure Charles meant the people trying to march on the Clinton's home should be arrested.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#280552: May 14th 2019 at 10:21:04 AM

Try this link:

Kentucky cyclist repeatedly arrested and jailed – for commuting on the road

Edited by M84 on May 15th 2019 at 1:21:18 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#280553: May 14th 2019 at 10:32:08 AM

[up] From the context of that article, it's clear that she's cycling on the highway because that's her only viable way to get to work and she needs to work to support her children, which is why the judge affirmed she was allowed to do that.

It's also evident that the 'unsafe situation' she was taken in for was not caused by her so much as by drivers choosing to violate traffic laws/regulations in order to pass her.

Angry gets shit done.
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280554: May 14th 2019 at 10:32:16 AM

[up][up] After reading that she seems even less sympathetic. She’s not riding on the shoulder, she’s riding in an actual traffic lane of the highway. She refuses to ride in the shoulder since she says the dirt and rumble strips are more dangerous than riding in traffic. I would also assume that the additional charges aren’t specifically related to her bicycling but rather failure to comply after officers told her to knock it off.

Under Tennessee Code, it’s up to local governments to decide whether any given roadway is closed to bicycle traffic, and US 27 appears to be a no go for bicycles through most areas.

Edited by archonspeaks on May 14th 2019 at 10:47:03 AM

They should have sent a poet.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#280555: May 14th 2019 at 10:52:12 AM

[up] She is most likely right about the uneven ground being more dangerous.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280556: May 14th 2019 at 10:55:46 AM

[up] I can’t see how an uneven surface could possibly be more dangerous than riding a bicycle inside 65mph traffic. By being there she’s not just endangering herself but everyone else on the road, those highways aren’t designed for low-speed vehicles.

They should have sent a poet.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#280557: May 14th 2019 at 11:07:42 AM

[up] Because it puts you in greater risk of falling. I rather would have a biker on the interstate then one falling into my lane. I once had to avoid a drunk man falling into my lane, and the only reason I didn't run him over was because the way he was moving I saw it coming from afar. With a biker a fall like this would be way more unpredictable.

At the end of the day the lack of proper infrastructure is the problem, though.

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#280558: May 14th 2019 at 11:09:42 AM

Bicycles do not belong on the lanes of major roads. I sympathize with her situation but she is creating a safety hazard, full stop.

Edited by Fighteer on May 14th 2019 at 2:09:54 PM

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280559: May 14th 2019 at 11:11:06 AM

[up][up] If you fall going over a bump you get some bruises or a scraped knee. If you get into an accident with a vehicle moving 65mph on a 6 lane highway you’ll be dead. That argument doesn’t hold water.

Not to mention that the slowing of traffic creates an accident hazard all the way down the highway, not just around the bicycle, even if all the drivers around her are behaving themselves.

It’s a shitty situation, but she’s creating an incredibly hazardous condition and recklessly continuing the behavior even after being warned off of it.

Edited by archonspeaks on May 14th 2019 at 11:15:30 AM

They should have sent a poet.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#280560: May 14th 2019 at 11:16:57 AM

People going 30 on the interstate are enough of a hazard to themselves and other drivers, and she's not going 30. What does she do when she gets to an on-ramp? People check their mirrors for headlights and cars, not a woman on a tiny bicycle.

It's a crappy situation, yes, but she needs to figure something else out. Last post on the topic from me since I think Septimus has probably been side-eyeing the off-topic hammer for a while now.

It's been fun.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#280561: May 14th 2019 at 11:21:39 AM

#LindseyGrahamResign trends on Twitter

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/443550-lindseygrahamresign-trending-on-twitter

Calls for Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) to resign began trending on Twitter Tuesday morning after the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman encouraged President Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., to plead the Fifth.

Graham on Monday said Trump Jr. should refuse to answer questions from the Senate Intelligence Committee, which subpoenaed Trump Jr. to testify about his communication with Russian officials.

“You just show up and plead the Fifth and it’s over with,” Graham told reporters, referring to the amendment that protects citizens from self-incrimination, according to The Washington Post.

The official Twitter account for Democratic Coalition, an anti-Trump super PAC that targets Republican officials and candidates, called for Graham to resign following the comments.

“Retweet if you agree. #LindseyGrahamResign,” the group posted.

The group wrote that Graham "has abdicated his responsibilities as a U.S. Senator and has clearly abandoned his oath to uphold the Constitution and defend the rule of law."

The Hill has reached out to Graham’s office for comment.

The hashtag quickly gained momentum online, with more than 65,000 people using it on Twitter.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280562: May 14th 2019 at 11:31:21 AM

You think the Clintons need to be arrested for the safety of others, despite not having done anything that's worthy of arrest? Because I don't think you read that article carefully. It says nothing about arresting the guy who's trying to encourage marching on a private citizens's home. Or about arresting the guy trying to gather a mob.

Yes, the only way we're going to benefit society is if all these "Lock Em up" People see that the rule of law still holds and they get arrested for threatening an ex-President and his wife. Trump's mobs need jailtime.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#280563: May 14th 2019 at 11:31:32 AM

Yesterday's and today's What the Fuck Just Happened Today? feeds

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/05/13/day-844/

    Day 844: Rules and norms 
1/ The White House asked Don Mc Gahn to declare that Trump never obstructed justice. Two requests by presidential advisers show how far the White House has gone to try to push back on accusations that the president obstructed justice. Mc Gahn initially entertained the request. "We did not perceive it as any kind of threat or something sinister," Mc Gahn's attorney said in a statement. "It was a request, professionally and cordially made." (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/us/politics/mcgahn-trump-obstruction.html

2/ Leaked letters reveal the details of NRA Chief Wayne La Pierre's alleged spending. National Rifle Association CEO Wayne La Pierre billed the group’s ad agency $39,000 for one day of shopping at a Beverly Hills clothing boutique, $18,300 for a car and driver in Europe, and had the agency cover $13,800 in rent for a summer intern, according to newly revealed NRA internal documents. (Wall Street Journal)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/leaked-letters-reveal-details-of-nra-chiefs-alleged-spending-11557597601

3/ The White House decried the investigations by House Democrats and complained that they are not following "rules and norms." The White House on Sunday decried Democratic-led congressional investigations, saying Democrats are refusing to abide by "rules and norms" that govern oversight authority as they issue subpoenas for documents the Trump administration refuses to hand over. (CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/12/politics/adam-schiff-trump-white-house-congressional-investigations/index.html

Suddenly, conservative lawyers are condemning Trump for abuses of power. Prominent Republican lawyers are pushing back against Trump’s defiance of subpoenas and expansive claims of executive privilege and immunity from prosecution. (Los Angeles Times)

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-republican-lawyers-20190512-story.html

4/ China is raising tariffs on $60 billion of U.S. goods starting on June 1. The move to impose steeper tariffs on U.S. goods comes in response to Trump's decision to hike tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods. Trump’s trade approach is also under attack back in the U.S. as China readies retaliation and the markets prepare for a big sell-off. (CNBC / Washington Post)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/13/china-is-raising-tariffs-on-60-billion-of-us-goods-starting-june-1.html

Trump disputes impact of tariffs on American consumers, but warns China not to retaliate. The president accused Beijing of backing out of a “great deal” last week. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/13/trump-china-tariffs-trade-war-1317772

5/ Trump aide Larry Kudlow acknowledged that U.S. consumers will be the ones who pay for Trump's tariffs, not China. "Both sides will suffer on this," Kudlow said. Trump’s decision to renew his trade war with China could inflict lasting damage on the American economy, but the ultimate impact depends on how far the president takes the fight. (NBC News / New York Times)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-aide-kudlow-acknowledges-u-s-consumers-pay-tariffs-not-n1004756

6/ Nadler is under pressure from calls for "inherent contempt." The House Judiciary Committee chairman faces pressure to get tougher with the Trump administration and start threatening fines or jail time as punishment for noncompliance. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/12/jerry-nadler-trump-subpeona-1317458

Schiff: Campaigns shouldn’t be allowed to get foreign help. The California Democrat responds to Rudy Giuliani’s proposed (and then scrapped) Ukraine trip. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/12/schiff-foreign-help-giuliani-ukraine-1317624

Schiff: Trump's additional obstruction of Congress "does add weight to impeachment". "He certainly seems to be trying, and maybe this is his perverse way of dividing us more." (Axios)

https://www.axios.com/adam-schiff-trump-impeachment-obstruction-congress-43012b3f-4731-429b-a331-3833163bb9ac.html

Schiff: Robert Mueller "is going to testify." On "This Week," Rep. Adam Schiff and Sen. Rand Paul weighed in on the Democratic-led congressional investigations into the president. (ABC News)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/robert-mueller-testify-rep-adam-schiff/story?id=62983637

7/ The Pentagon will pull money from its ballistic missile and surveillance plane programs in order to fund Trump's border wall. The Defense Department, under Trump, intends to reprogram $2.5 billion that was originally designated by Congress for other projects. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/05/12/pentagon-will-pull-money-ballistic-missile-surveillance-plane-programs-fund-border-wall/

Is there a connection between undocumented immigrants and crime?. It’s a widely held perception, but a new analysis finds no evidence to support it. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/upshot/illegal-immigration-crime-rates-research.html

8/ Omarosa wants to join a lawsuit alleging that women were underpaid by the Trump campaign. A former campaign staffer who accused Trump of sexual misconduct and pay discrimination filed a motion Monday asking for a judge to allow others, including Omarosa, to join her initial lawsuit filed in February. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/13/omarosa-requests-join-lawsuit-alleging-women-were-underpaid-by-trump-campaign/

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/05/14/day-845/

    Day 845: Echoes 
1/ White House reviews military plans against Iran, in echoes of the Iraq War. The plans call for up to 120,000 American troops but not a land invasion of Iran. They were updated at the request of John R. Bolton, the national security adviser. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/world/middleeast/us-military-plans-iran.html

2/ Attorney General William Barr assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to review the origins of the Russia investigation. The prosecutor has conducted other sensitive investigations into conduct by national security officials, including accusations of C.I.A. detainee abuse. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/us/politics/russia-investigation-justice-department-review.html

3/ Global stocks fell in response to China’s retaliation against U.S. tariffs, stoking economic anxiety. Stocks around the world fell sharply on Monday as the trade war between the world’s two biggest economies showed little sign of ending soon. Signs of economic anxiety also appeared in other financial markets. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/business/global-markets.html

4/ The U.S. is preparing to slap tariffs on all remaining Chinese imports, which could add levies on roughly $300 billion in additional goods. Days after both countries raised hopes of a deal, Trump and Xi instead escalate their tariff war. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/13/trump-warns-china-not-retaliate-tariffs-insists-they-wont-hurt-us-consumers/

GOP's farm belt Senators back Trump as China takes aim at U.S. agriculture. Republican lawmakers in the farm belt are standing with President Donald Trump in the wake of an escalating trade war with China, which retaliated on Monday with more tariffs on agricultural goods. (CNBC)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/13/gops-farm-belt-senators-back-trump-as-china-takes-aim-at-us-agriculture.html

5/ Before Trump’s purge of the Department of Homeland Security, some top DHS officials challenged his plan to carry out mass family arrests. Kirstjen Nielsen and Ronald Vitiello were ousted after halting an operation that would have targeted thousands of parents and children in 10 cities for arrest and deportation. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/before-trumps-purge-at-dhs-top-officials-challenged-plan-for-mass-family-arrests/2019/05/13/d7cb91ce-75af-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html

6/ Trump said he would agree not to use stolen material as part of his 2020 presidential campaign. Trump said he would stay away from information stolen by foreign adversaries in his re-election bid, his first public commitment to doing so. (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-he-would-agree-not-use-stolen-material-2020-n1005146

7/ Trump praised the authoritarian prime minister of Hungary and called him "highly respected." "Probably like me a little bit controversial," Trump said, "but that's okay." (Axios)

https://www.axios.com/trump-viktor-orban-hungary-migration-d32f28ea-c433-447b-90e0-9c69f37a2491.html

Edited by sgamer82 on May 14th 2019 at 12:32:04 PM

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#280564: May 14th 2019 at 11:32:00 AM

"The group wrote that Graham "has abdicated his responsibilities as a U.S. Senator and has clearly abandoned his oath to uphold the Constitution and defend the rule of law."

Eh, not really. He was reminding someone of a Constitutional right, after all - it's partisan hackery at its finest, but it can't exactly be called an abdication of his responsibilities.

Edited by ironballs16 on May 14th 2019 at 2:34:11 PM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#280565: May 14th 2019 at 11:39:52 AM

Also, unless these people are from his state their demands aren't worth shit.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280566: May 14th 2019 at 11:44:19 AM

Its a bit more complicated as he was instructing Don in ways of avoiding a subpoena.

Graham on Monday said Trump Jr. should refuse to answer questions from the Senate Intelligence Committee, which subpoenaed Trump Jr. to testify about his communication with Russian officials.

“You just show up and plead the Fifth and it’s over with,” Graham told reporters, referring to the amendment that protects citizens from self-incrimination, according to The Washington Post.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 14th 2019 at 11:45:04 AM

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#280567: May 14th 2019 at 11:45:32 AM

Let's not forget that before that, Lindsay told Don Jr., on live TV no less, to ignore the subpoena entirely. Yes, a Congressperson told someone to break the law on TV. Not only is that incredibly stupid, it shows how brazen they've gotten in their defiance.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280568: May 14th 2019 at 11:50:50 AM

The NRA's situation is hilarious to me but infuriates me as well.

  • I'm laughing my ass off at the fact that Oliver North has been blackmailing, embezzling, and cheating the organization. OF COURSE HE HAS. What did you expect when you hired a criminal and fucking Dirty Cop spy?

  • The NRA being tax exempt and having a for-profit network is bullshit beyond all reason.

  • I do love how the NRA shot itself in the foot by electing Trump. The fact they thought Obama was going to take their guns is angering, though.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280569: May 14th 2019 at 11:56:43 AM

From the Nadler thing, this entire article is full of, "The Democrats don't actually want to arrest anyone." Which is disgusting but not surprising.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/12/jerry-nadler-trump-subpeona-1317458

On Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee voted to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress for not turning over an unredacted copy of special counsel Robert Mueller's report. No House floor vote has been scheduled yet, but Democrats know the move is more symbolic than substantive. A civil contempt resolution is likely to be approved in the coming weeks, meaning the House could sue Barr and the Justice Department. But that isn't enough for many Democrats. They want to go much further.

Some lawmakers tell POLITICO that the growing push for a more aggressive posture is being driven by the committee's younger members, many of whom are new to the skirmishes and polarizing fights that have long divided the Judiciary panel.

The Judiciary Committee has long been one of the most partisan in Congress because leadership tends to steer vulnerable — and typically more moderate — members away from the committee. That leaves the panel stacked with members less willing to compromise or shy away from a battle with a president of either party.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#280570: May 14th 2019 at 12:02:11 PM

With the bike situation, I'd argue that it's possible neither the lady, the cops, or the judge are at fault here. The actual problem is the lack of a bike lane. I'm not sure if the judge can order a bike lane constructed, but that's how you fix this problem.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#280571: May 14th 2019 at 12:05:05 PM

That Axios article has Schiff thinking that Trump's defiance of Congress is making the case for impeachment stronger, but also points out that an impeachment would divide the country even further. And while Trump might think that benefits him, it won't benefit the country.

He also points out that the House Democrats have always intended to wait for the Mueller Report in full before deciding whether or not to push for impeachment. It'd be kind of awkward if even the full report ultimately didn't have enough grounds for impeachment, to put it lightly.

Edited by M84 on May 15th 2019 at 3:05:54 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#280572: May 14th 2019 at 12:06:48 PM

[up]

The irony being that, by fighting the release of the full report, Trump just makes himself look worse and worse in the eyes of the law. And to think, it's only because of others around him being smarter (and unwilling to tender resignations on the spot) that Trump didn't find himself in the exact same boat as Nixon did.

Edited by ironballs16 on May 14th 2019 at 3:10:10 PM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280573: May 14th 2019 at 12:14:20 PM

The law is only as good as a person who will enforce it.

But I think we can safely say at least some Democrats don't want to push this forward. There is no Arya hit list.

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#280574: May 14th 2019 at 12:52:07 PM

The redacted report already has grounds for impeachment. "But we need the full report" is just more legislative cowardice.

Trump has House Dems too intimidated to actually do their jobs and serve as a check and balance. The Blue Wave came in on November 2018 on the expectation that Democrats will stand up to Trump and actually push back against him. And right now, they are failing that expectation.

"It'll divide the country further." I'd rather have a divided nation than one united in chains. There is no value in letting the authoritarian win. House Democrats are giving up and putting out only token resistance to Trump's agenda for fear of actually having to fight. That is completely unacceptable.

No more delaying actions. No more bullshit excuses. It's long past time for the House to put its votes where its mouth is and do something. Otherwise, we might as well buckle in for another four years of Trump, 'cause two years of belligerent appeasement isn't going to inspire anyone in 2020.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 14th 2019 at 1:56:30 PM

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Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#280575: May 14th 2019 at 1:11:43 PM

[up] The Blue Wave came mostly out of healthcare and gun safety desires, the people clamoring for impeachment were always going to vote for the democrats. The moderate suburbanites were the ones who swung and allowed it to happen.

Edited by Grafite on May 14th 2019 at 9:13:10 AM

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