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#279551: May 5th 2019 at 11:48:19 AM

If memory serves, the only bubbles that weren't cultivated or burst under Republican watch were the post-WW 2/Cold War bubble and the dot-com bubble.

Edit: I did forget about the mini bubble caused by the New Deal, and the 1920s bubble which lead into the Great Depression was started under Wilson.

Edited by tclittle on May 5th 2019 at 1:59:25 PM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#279552: May 5th 2019 at 11:58:24 AM

[up][up][up] But he also has the least concrete points to offer. I mean, his entire announcement video was basically just "Racism and Trump are bad, vote for me!" These are viewpoint which don't really differentiate him from.....pretty much his entire party?

It was certainly a giant wasted chance to bring up any concrete policies he wants to introduce/change.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#279553: May 5th 2019 at 12:24:28 PM

Funny enough, I think the candidate who is actually taking the most direct shots at Trump on the campaign trail is Biden.

It's not surprising.

1. Biden has never hesitated to speak his mind. It's just for once he's punching up.

2. Biden can get away with being angry and confrontational the way a woman or minority candidate can't.

But Biden strategists undoubtedly know that he will appeal most the angrier he is at Trump.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 5th 2019 at 12:25:27 PM

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FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
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#279554: May 5th 2019 at 12:34:30 PM

Speaking of appealing (if this was discussed already, my bad)...

"Joe Biden says he 'doesn't have time' to lay out his healthcare plan"

As Joe Biden storms through Iowa and prepares for his first visit as a presidential candidate in South Carolina, the Democratic front-runner has said he doesn't "have the time" to lay out the details of his healthcare plan.

"I don't have time; I don't want to keep you standing any longer," Mr Biden said recently in Iowa City, declining to lay out his vision for America's healthcare future to the assembled crowd, according to POLITICO.

Likewise Mr Biden has been less than exhaustive when it comes to his other plans, be it foreign policy, or how to tackle climate change.

The approach - one in which the former vice president has focused on the values needed in an American president, instead of on specifics of policy - stands in contrast to some of his stiffest competition from fellow Democrats hoping to shake up Democratic politics as we know it.

[...]

"We choose hope over fear! We choose unity over division! We choose truth over lies! And we choose science not fiction!" Mr Biden said at that Iowa rally, according to POLITICO. "Remember who we are! This is the United States of America!"

I haven't yet seen a man so determined to ruin his chances with voters other than those near-guaranteed to vote for him. I can see why he's doing that, but boy, that's just one way to get people to stay at homes should he receive the nomination.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#279555: May 5th 2019 at 12:43:36 PM

[up]He probably doesn't want to come out and explicitly say that he is not for M 4 A, which he very likely isn't for.

His policy will probably be an expanded ACA. The most he would be willing to go is maybe a Public Option and/or reducing the Medicare age.

He's running on the hope that Obama nostalgia, presumed elect-ability, and the fear among Moderate Democrats of Bernie being nominated will care him through. I wouldn't expect much out of him policy wise.

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#279556: May 5th 2019 at 12:56:28 PM

[up]He probably doesn't want to come out and explicitly say that he is not for M 4 A, which he very likely isn't for.

His policy will probably be an expanded ACA. The most he would be willing to go is maybe a Public Option and/or reducing the Medicare age.

He's running on the hope that Obama nostalgia, presumed elect-ability, and the fear among Moderate Democrats of Bernie being nominated will care him through. I wouldn't expect much out of him policy wise.

I still don't think it makes sense, it's not like there haven't been Democrats who are fine with supporting expanding the ACA over M 4 A.

Just refusing to elaborate on his healthcare policy is just baffling.

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DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#279557: May 5th 2019 at 1:16:47 PM

[up]

Might not have properly formulated it yet. Wouldn't be the first time some supposedly shoe-in candidate ran on a wispy cloud of high ideals and name recognition. I'm hardly one to talk there given I don't exactly like technocrats, but I'd expect at least a line or two ready.

Edited by DeathorCake on May 5th 2019 at 8:22:16 AM

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#279558: May 5th 2019 at 1:22:18 PM

The only argument I can think of as to why Biden, Pelosi and other members of the "old guard" don't want Medicare For All is I think they were burned by the effort to pass the ACA in the first place.

Pelosi has talked in the past about getting the ACA through in 2010. She basically said she was "ordering her caucus to their (political) deaths." She has always known how to count - so she probably knew exactly who would lose their seat in 2010 thanks in part to the rancour around the ACA.

Given that history, I can see why they would rather tinker at the edges than try and replace the ACA with a more sweeping reform. It would however be interesting if they changed their tune if the Trump Administration succeeds in repealing the ACA via the courts.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#279559: May 5th 2019 at 2:17:46 PM

So Trump decided to blame the result of the Kentucky Derby (tldr: lead horse got DQ'd after it was determined that it bumped into another horse and crossed out of its lane)... on political correctness.

The Kentucky Derby decision was not a good one. It was a rough & tumble race on a wet and sloppy track, actually, a beautiful thing to watch. Only in these days of political correctness could such an overturn occur. The best horse did NOT win the Kentucky Derby - not even close!

Satire is redundant these days...

He also left out the c in Kentucky the first time.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on May 5th 2019 at 6:18:26 AM

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#279560: May 5th 2019 at 2:19:53 PM

I really, really hope that Warren holds Biden's feet to the fire on that one, given how policy-focused she's been on the campaign trail while being an active Senator.

[up]

And... what. Seriously, that would get a track runner DQ'd in a heartbeat, so how the flying fuck is it "Political Correctness Gone Mad" for a fucking horse to get DQ'd for the same breach?

Edited by ironballs16 on May 5th 2019 at 5:24:20 AM

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#279561: May 5th 2019 at 2:23:39 PM

I avoid reading his tweets their intention to distract people,not falling for it

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#279562: May 5th 2019 at 2:24:28 PM

[up][up][up]I get the impression Trump had money riding on the race. That he would be so upset by the results is sad for multiple reasons. Also, it's pretty clear that his use of "political correctness" in this context refers to being held to established rules, which... a man being bothered by that says a lot, but in this case, nothing that hasn't been said.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on May 5th 2019 at 5:25:12 AM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#279563: May 5th 2019 at 2:25:34 PM

Nah, Trump's intention isn't to distract (if he was intelligent and had a modicum of impulse control, he'd talk about nothing other than the economy), its an outlet for whatever is on his mind. It does more harm than good to him, I'd say.

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#279565: May 5th 2019 at 2:30:25 PM

It would merely be sad that the attention he already has isn't enough, were it not for the fact that so many people happily provide it for him.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#279566: May 5th 2019 at 2:31:01 PM

With a personality like that I think it’s safe to assume there’s no amount of attention that would be enough for him.

They should have sent a poet.
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#279567: May 5th 2019 at 2:35:40 PM

On the plus side, the possibility of him losing any amount of the attention he has could mentally break him to the point where it physically affects him. Unlikely, but I like the thought. That said, the only way that theory could be tested is if he loses the 2020 election.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#279568: May 5th 2019 at 2:36:32 PM

Re: Kentucky Derby

Its a bullshit disqualification because Maximum Security dominated the field and had a lengthy lead on every other horse in the race. I also believe that if the rider had been white, this wouldn't have been challenged.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 5th 2019 at 2:37:07 AM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#279569: May 5th 2019 at 2:59:05 PM

Its lead doesn't matter, and the horse it hit ended up in 6th so it probably had minimal effect on the outcome. But if you break the rules (which it apparently did), there are consequences. And considering that those rules are meant to prevent pileups, and potential injury to horses and jockeys...

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#279570: May 5th 2019 at 3:00:30 PM

I'm aware of that but the conditions were horrible and bluntly, I think the stewards made a bad call either way.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#279571: May 5th 2019 at 3:07:48 PM

Has this been discussed? Looks like a couple far right folk were setting up a smear on Buttigieg, and roped in a guy from Michigan for this false accusation. The smear ultimately failed.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 5th 2019 at 3:08:40 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#279572: May 5th 2019 at 3:11:41 PM

I brought it up, mainly to highlight just how stupid the "masterminds" behind this are.

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Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#279574: May 5th 2019 at 3:26:48 PM

Oh Jacob Wohl, the same far-right asshole who tried to propagate an equally false accusation against Robert Mueller. He clearly hasn't learned the lesson, probably only prison time would stop him, if these actions even are illegal.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#279575: May 5th 2019 at 3:30:45 PM

I understand while Buttigieg and (especially) Mueller aren't taking civil action against them, but I almost hope that he goes after someone who turns around and ruins him for libel.

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