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#278451: Apr 24th 2019 at 4:47:54 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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#278452: Apr 24th 2019 at 5:58:07 AM

I'm putting a pin in this back and forth. You have a problem with someone's behavior, holler it.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#278453: Apr 24th 2019 at 5:59:57 AM

~Oruka

Just a little something I came across.

context-less youtube link

Amazing. Truly amazing.

Why?

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#278454: Apr 24th 2019 at 6:30:09 AM

The issue is not "Centrist Democrats refuse to accept the Left". That's pure projection, and it's actually the other way around, the self-proclaimed Left has shown to be willing to refuse to vote for any candidate that isn't extreme enough for them.

If you had ever read any of my posts, you would know that I am critical of this exact mentality of the farther Left in America, especially when it comes to the followers of those such as Sanders. You would have only gotten the exact opposite take if you had never bothered to read any of what I have said.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#278455: Apr 24th 2019 at 6:31:37 AM

[up][up]Its a supercut of Fox News hosts dumping on Obama, but without any of the context that makes it clear they're talking about Obama. The result makes it sound like they're talking about Trump

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Apr 24th 2019 at 9:32:32 AM

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#278456: Apr 24th 2019 at 6:45:08 AM

[up][up]Jimmy Dore is a sterling example of the dumb left. He and Sam Seder had a heated disagreement/debate (it was almost enough to be called a feud) over the fact that Dore would rather have Trump in office on the chance it would cause a massive left-wing backlash and sweep a genuine left-wing candidate into office rather than get corporate Democrat Hillary in the White House and have it be business as usual. Seder argued (from a socialist/social democrat perspective) that voting for a right-wing 'corporate Democrat' was always preferable to allowing the GOP in, and that voting for anyone BUT that Democrat would necessarily help the GOP in.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#278457: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:10:38 AM

[up][up] Thank you. I'll try and remember to a look when I have the chance

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#278458: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:25:23 AM

[up][up]Accelerationism remains one of the most moronic ideologies ever conceived.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#278459: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:25:46 AM

@Sgamer and Stamina:

The interesting thing is that their vicious mocking commentary applies to Trump much, much better than it does Obama, and shows the extreme degree of their hypocrisy in what they like or dislike in a President.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#278460: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:30:45 AM

Not surprising. Trump blatantly is everything Obama and Clinton were ever accused of being.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#278461: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:33:02 AM

[up][up][up]Thank you for putting a name to it.

Now that I think about it, that's basically what Dominionism is, just with theological driven goals.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Apr 24th 2019 at 3:33:13 PM

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#278462: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:44:02 AM

The original strain was more or less "let Hitler win, and watch a global socialist revolution happen". It falls into the political left's common misassumption that social progression is a given, combined with a total lack of empathy for anyone who gets hurt in the process.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#278463: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:54:31 AM

Apparently there are right-wing strains of this disease as well.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#278464: Apr 24th 2019 at 7:54:58 AM

It originated from the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, with Soviet-aligned socialists in Europe and especially the US using it as one of their many bullshit excuses for not opposing Fascism, because Stalin wasn't.

Even the people who espoused it knew it was utter nonsense.

Edited by Robrecht on Apr 24th 2019 at 4:55:17 PM

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AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#278465: Apr 24th 2019 at 8:05:47 AM

>On the whole "are the Centrists or the Left not accepting the other" thing, its both. I've seen people of both quarters not support the other. Just as we had a small 'Bernie or Bust' group, so to did we have a small group of people vote third party than vote for AOC, or have Senators like Feinstein talk down to activists.

>Accelerationism

Its bad. Its usually espoused, from what I can tell, from those who have nothing to lose in the "everything gets worse" portion of their plan.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#278466: Apr 24th 2019 at 8:06:54 AM

It's one of the issues that killed communism in America that rather than develop their own strain, they were very much interested in being in lock step with the Soviet Union.

It lended a bit of credibility to otherwise ridiculous charges against the Left as a whole.

(Not that the Left in America wasn't under constant neverending assault period)

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DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#278467: Apr 24th 2019 at 8:49:32 AM

Accelerationism as a tactic tends to be rather stupid, accelerationism as a nineties philosophy is this completely insane amphetamine-fuelled blend of cyberpunk,the internet, obscure French philosophers and a hundred other things that I for one find rather entertaining to read about if of basically no practical use. Did produce the ever excellent Mark Fisher as well as all the cultish millenarian Silicon Valley neoreactionaries though.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#278468: Apr 24th 2019 at 8:51:41 AM

So anyway,Trump thinks he can fight impeachment by heading to the supreme court which he can't because that decision is decided upon by congress as US Constitution

"...The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. The Constitution, Article I, Section 3: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments..."

So he's fighting in wrong place and trying to start open war between congress and the supreme court,Christ he's desperate

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#278469: Apr 24th 2019 at 8:57:30 AM

Why would he do that when the Senate is never going to impeach him anyway?

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#278470: Apr 24th 2019 at 9:00:40 AM

[up] Could be worried that if his Tax Returns are revealed he'd get enough Republicans to side with the Democrats. Plus Trump's approval Ratings are really low right now; sure they'll probably bounce up in a month or two, but right now they're probably going to go lower because of these various fights he's starting. That could be enough to get some 'Swing' Republicans, like Romney, to at least say "If we can prove he did something illegal in his Taxes, then yeah, we'll impeach him".

It's also probably a rallying cry to his Trumpeteers to get them to think that the Democrats are 'out of control' and 'trying to stage a coup'.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#278471: Apr 24th 2019 at 9:02:32 AM

Never say never,even if its impossible in this reality he's genuinely thinks it's possible because he's scared and stupid enough to belive anything

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#278472: Apr 24th 2019 at 9:06:34 AM

Minorities, older adults boost Biden atop 2020 Democratic field: Reuters/Ipsos poll

https://reut.rs/2IDIbpo

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#278473: Apr 24th 2019 at 9:09:58 AM

Minorities? Surprising, in my experience most of them go for Warren, Harris, or Sanders (mainly the international ones in his case). I do worry that all the people running for the primary are going to split the vote away from one of the more qualified second runners in favor of a milquetoast like Biden.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#278474: Apr 24th 2019 at 9:13:56 AM

Well, the number will be whittled down over time until that ceases to be so much of a factor.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#278475: Apr 24th 2019 at 9:16:57 AM

All to the tune of 'Another one bites the dust or 'Ten green bottles'

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