Nov 2023 Mod notice:
There may be other, more specific, threads about some aspects of US politics, but this one tends to act as a hub for all sorts of related news and information, so it's usually one of the busiest OTC threads.
If you're new to OTC, it's worth reading the Introduction to On-Topic Conversations
and the On-Topic Conversations debate guidelines
before posting here.
Rumor-based, fear-mongering and/or inflammatory statements that damage the quality of the thread will be thumped. Off-topic posts will also be thumped. Repeat offenders may be suspended.
If time spent moderating this thread remains a distraction from moderation of the wiki itself, the thread will need to be locked. We want to avoid that, so please follow the forum rules
when posting here.
In line with the general forum rules, 'gravedancing' is prohibited here. If you're celebrating someone's death or hoping that they die, your post will get thumped. This rule applies regardless of what the person you're discussing has said or done.
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
You know what would be nice? Republican candidates hoping to challenge Trump's rule.
But we all know that will never happen. I still firmly believe his base is all a Hive Mind whose heads will explode if they ever think about crossing him.
ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad.
Well, Bill Weld was last I checked. He was a Republican Governor(?) all those years ago, and was Gary Johnson's Vice-Presidential candidate in 2016.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Apr 8th 2019 at 8:55:43 AM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerFrankly splitting the vote would be a Mercy Kill for a decent Republican.
ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad.How are you guys handling life in this Trumpian hellscape? I mean, I'm getting by all right, but emotionally, I'm at the end of my rope. I cannot believe the sadistic, dystopian horseshit that's become the norm since the man took office. Real life is unrecognizable. On the one hand, it's good to know that the people I've always hated were truly, actually, capital-E Evil and I no longer have to feel bad about hating them, but so many things inspire frothy-mouthed rage that it's honestly exhausting.
Anyway, who do you guys like in the 2020 race? I'm thinking Warren.
![]()
![]()
![]()
I don't live in the US, but we're in a broadly similar political climate with an equally horrible president, so maybe what I'm saying will still apply.
The worst part for me on a day-to-day basis is wondering whether any given perfectly nice and reasonable sounding person I know is actually a blackshirt, or at least complicit. My state voted for the fascist-in-office by a very convincing margin, so the vast majority of people around me are likely to be shitty by default. During the election period it was honestly unreal seeing the support for someone so openly hateful and bigoted first-hand, from people who really should know better. It's a really weird and exhausting feeling doubting everyone I know, and then either feeling shitty when it turns out my suspicion was validated or relieved that I was wrong.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Apr 8th 2019 at 12:04:20 PM
Tbh, I really hate how everyone in my immediate family is a Trumphead. Like, sometimes you know when someone has some shitty opinions, but when someone like Trump comes along and validates them...
I don't pretend that I have it the worst of it. I'm Caucasian and cisgender. That doesn't preclude me from worrying about the people that are more vulnerable to the administration's evil.
There are days, like during the Kavanaugh hearings, where I have shaken with anger.
Do not obey in advance.I've had a lot of practice coming to terms with the people in my life having shitty views. Comes with growing up with kind of racist and homophobic parents whose idea of discipline was a lot of verbal abuse and physical abuse.
Edited by M84 on Apr 9th 2019 at 12:22:36 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedAt least where I'm at I haven't had to really worry about that. I work at the AG's office in Minnesota which is currently run by a Democrat (and has been for the last 50 years), and I'm pretty sure most everyone there is at the very least not a Republican. I've also heard them talking about Trump or current politics every now and then, and they all seem to hate the big moldy orange's guts.
My siblings and I are solidly left-wing. My mom is centrist to left-ish; very much dislikes Trump, watches CNN constantly. My dad I dunno, pretty sure he was a Bush Republican, but kinda strikes me as a "both sides are bad" sort of guy; last time I got a clear read on his political views was early-to-mid-2016, where his stance was "Trump's bad, Clinton's bad, Sanders is worse".
Outside my immediate family (and to some degree inside), we generally Don't Ask. Visited my grandparents over the holidays and they don't seem to like him. Before that was a family reunion in mid-2016, where I recall one uncle saying that Obama ruined the country, and an aunt saying that people working minimum wage need to get a Real Job™, so make of that what you will.
-
In terms of 2020 candidates, most of them seem fine enough, but so far Warren and Harris have held my attention the most. It's still early on in the process, so I'm content to wait and see.
Edited by Blueeyedrat on Apr 8th 2019 at 9:54:36 AM
Among South Asians, it's generally split down the middle. There's those who look at Trump's xenophobia and think he's out of his mind.
And there's those who look at his "fuck Muslims" stance and say "Works for Me".
I hold the secrets of the machine.![]()
Nah, it's more of a religious split. Non-muslim (and conservative) South Asians are pretty much okay with the Trump bandwagon. Other than them, not so much.
It's always been a religious thing. Nationality is something of a secondary point.
Wow, that's one hell of a boomerang.
Edited by TechPriest90 on Apr 8th 2019 at 1:15:34 PM
I hold the secrets of the machine.

His heart,oh wait he doesn't have one
have a listen and have a link to my discord server