TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

The General US Politics Thread

Go To

Nov 2023 Mod notice:


There may be other, more specific, threads about some aspects of US politics, but this one tends to act as a hub for all sorts of related news and information, so it's usually one of the busiest OTC threads.

If you're new to OTC, it's worth reading the Introduction to On-Topic Conversations and the On-Topic Conversations debate guidelines before posting here.

Rumor-based, fear-mongering and/or inflammatory statements that damage the quality of the thread will be thumped. Off-topic posts will also be thumped. Repeat offenders may be suspended.

If time spent moderating this thread remains a distraction from moderation of the wiki itself, the thread will need to be locked. We want to avoid that, so please follow the forum rules when posting here.


In line with the general forum rules, 'gravedancing' is prohibited here. If you're celebrating someone's death or hoping that they die, your post will get thumped. This rule applies regardless of what the person you're discussing has said or done.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#276476: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:36:00 PM

Just When You Thought the Trump Administration Couldn’t Get Any Lower, This Happened.

Newbold told NBC News that when she informed her former director, Carl Kline, that he was breaching protocol, Newbold, who has a rare form of dwarfism, claims that Kline retaliated in the evilest, most childish, pettiest way ever—by moving her work files to a shelf she couldn’t reach.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#276477: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:47:01 PM

[up][up] I don't think it matters, he's still a bigot and a murderer. Plus IIRC The Vikings discovered America first.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:47:39 AM

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#276478: Apr 3rd 2019 at 6:02:16 PM

Would it be fortunate in hindsight that the name "United States of Columbia" wasn't selected?

ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad.
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#276479: Apr 3rd 2019 at 6:20:58 PM

I mean. If we're gonna bring up the Vikings, really the group of people who first crossed the land-bridge from present-day Russia were the ones who discovered America first. That's where the Native Americans came from, after all.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#276480: Apr 3rd 2019 at 6:22:35 PM

Alternate universe news headline: “Columbia drops atomic bomb on Japan! Surrender expected!” [lol]

“Columbia puts Man on Moon! Soviets offer congratulations as history is made”.

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#276482: Apr 3rd 2019 at 7:22:45 PM

Hillbillies being hillbillies...

ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad.
Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#276483: Apr 3rd 2019 at 7:24:45 PM

[up][up] There is zero question that the white guy needs to be charged with assault or whatever we can throw at him. She's lucky he didn't kill her. We don't need people like that.

I can understand why she would be angry about something like that, I would be too and I'm not always sure I'd stop with just smashing the windows on his truck. However, we do need to let the system work (or not, let's face it do we really believe that he's going to get what he deserves) before we resort to taking things into our own hands.

Edited by Soban on Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:24:56 AM

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#276484: Apr 3rd 2019 at 7:30:10 PM

However, we do need to let the system work (or not, let's face it do we really believe that he's going to get what he deserves) before we resort to taking things into our own hands.

Hold on, where did this come from?

She's lucky he didn't kill her.

Freezing cold comfort.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:30:21 AM

i'm tired, my friend
Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#276485: Apr 3rd 2019 at 7:52:50 PM

>Hold on, where did this come from?

"Lee was charged Tuesday with felony criminal mischief after allegedly smashing the windows of Shuffield’s truck after the incident."

It appears she came back later to destroy the windows on his truck. Destroying the windows wasn't a part of the confrontation, but something that occurred later.

Edited by Soban on Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:54:41 AM

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#276486: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:01:54 PM

Oh.

Well, if that's true, I think it's a fair price to pay for assaulting a black woman over a traffic dispute.

If it's true.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:02:11 AM

i'm tired, my friend
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#276487: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:02:36 PM

Senator Michael Bennet (D-CO) has prostate cancer, and will undergo treatment this month. He says his outlook is good, and it was detected early.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/03/politics/bennet-prostate-cancer/index.html

Notably, if his treatment works out fine (as in, he is declared cancer free within a reasonable time), he plans to run for President as well.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:03:01 PM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#276488: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:09:35 PM

[up][up]

It's more worse then that, He wanted a pic of her license plate, (Not utterly unreasonable) she wanted him to step back (completely reasonable) and he draws a gun and assaults her. He started the whole thing over literally nothing. Often I find fault with both parties, but in this one I think it's pretty clear where 100% of the blame goes. When I say he could have killed her, the gun is the obvious way. However, hitting someone on the head is also a really good way to kill someone. He needs to go to prison for some serious time.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#276489: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:52:36 PM

Some Mueller team members say final report more damaging to Trump than Barr summary suggests: NY Times

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/437281-mueller-team-members-say-final-report-more-damaging-to-trump-than

Some members of special counsel Robert Mueller's team have said Attorney General William Barr's summary of their report did not sufficiently portray the results of their investigation, suggesting their findings could be more damaging to President Trump than Barr conveyed, The New York Times reported Wednesday.

The Times, citing government officials and others familiar with the matter, reported that members of the special counsel's team have expressed concerns that Barr's summary of their office's findings helped solidify the views of the American public prior to the investigation's conclusions being made public.

Investigators on Mueller's team reportedly prepared summaries of their probe, and some feel that Barr should have included more information from their summaries in his own outline of the report's findings. However, the Justice Department determined those summaries contained sensitive information that could not be released, according to two government officials who spoke to the Times.

The officials and others did not fully explain to the Times why the investigators believe their findings are worse for the president than Barr indicated. It also is not clear how many of the 19 lawyers, approximately 40 FBI agents and other people on Mueller’s team share this sentiment about Barr’s summary.

The Hill has reached out to the special counsel's office for comment.

Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:53:25 AM

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#276490: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:57:16 PM

Noooooooooooo, what a plot twist, I am SO shocked.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#276491: Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:15:29 PM

I'd say I'd be surprised, except that I would be lying if I did so.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#276493: Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:55:24 PM

Texas....

When can we expect them to institute Judge Dredd style Judges?

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#276494: Apr 4th 2019 at 7:33:40 AM

For comparison with the ongoing problems coming out of Trump's White House, the Daily Show has a running series on historic Presidential Scandals from the Obama Administration and the massive outcries in conservative media over Obama's terrible transgressions against the United States.

Things like the infamous selfie stick.

It's a fascinating bit of contrast between the Presidencies. Also amazing to look back at just how alarmingly racist Fox's coverage of Obama was. One woman describes him as "doing jump shots in the Oval Office", which has nothing to do with the topic and is just a BLACK FOLKS BE PLAYIN' BASKETBALL dig.

She gets away with it by being black herself, I guess?

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#276495: Apr 4th 2019 at 8:24:02 AM

I mean... to be fair, he did play basketball a bit. It's still wildly unrelated, and the whole thing is stupid and hilarious to look back on, but it's not factually inaccurate.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#276496: Apr 4th 2019 at 8:49:52 AM

Probably the worst thing that happened during the Obama administration, was the Benghazi affair, which didnt involve Obama directly. Other than that, there were a number of policy decisions that a fair number of people consider objectionable, such as the warrantless wiretapping programs, drone strikes that targeted noncombatants, and so forth. But any objective comparison between the two cant help highlighting how corrupt the Trump administration is.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#276497: Apr 4th 2019 at 9:00:11 AM

Yeah, it's selective memory at best and whitewashing at worst to claim the Obama era was scandal free. But it's nothing compared to our current era.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#276498: Apr 4th 2019 at 10:49:46 AM

Texas....

When can we expect them to institute Judge Dredd style Judges?

I thought they just called them "police" already.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#276499: Apr 4th 2019 at 11:36:54 AM

So, I don't think that's... productive.

Like, it's entirely unrelated to the subject at hand (other than "executions are involved") and if anything, runs contrary to the story that brought it up, you know?

I mean, this is a story where a man got a stay of execution because of his non-Christian beliefs... and the state's response was to chop its nose to spite its face and go "oh shit, I'd rather hurt Christians and non-Christians than help non-Christians too."

I'm not saying don't make jokes. I'm not even saying don't make that joke. But save it for the depressingly inevitable cop killing an unarmed guy rather than draw attention away from the actual article being discussed.

Re: Obama: There's a reason that he was called "No Drama Obama." While there was a lot of bad shit going on, he A: Handled it well and B: (True or not) instilled a sense that it was an inherited issue (torture in particular comes to mind on this front). As such, people desperate for a scandalous scandal jumped on everything.

Trump goes the other way and it kind of... works. He has so many scandals it's impossible to keep up, or sustain suitable outrage at them. And if individuals sustain suitable outrage, out comes another funny little (but still shockingly inappropriate) gaffe that catches the country's eye and turns it away.

Edited by Larkmarn on Apr 4th 2019 at 2:40:29 PM

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#276500: Apr 4th 2019 at 11:41:47 AM

[up][up] Ahem, the PRISM program seems to be eluding the minds of the writers at Comedy Central. Not that I personally thought much about it, even as a European. I mean, is it shocking that the US would use their vast intelligence network to their advantage?

Life is unfair...

Total posts: 417,856
Top