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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Sure because the Religious Right are fundamentally opposed to democracy, they’re nothing but the KKK with a smile, they want many people here dead, so yeah I find no common ground with them.
I can’t find common purpose with them because we have no common purpose, they stand against democracy, human rights and for me they even stand against god.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
X3 Then they wouldn’t be the Religious Right, they’d be the Religiously Left (which is different from the Religious Left who still have Right-wing religious views but back democrats for other reasons).
Edited by Silasw on Apr 1st 2019 at 2:03:07 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI'm a card-carrying member of the religious right, and while there is some truth to the idea that politics requires cooperation...there isn't much that the democrats can do to compromise, and they're not the ones making it impossible to do so right now. The right has been whiny and butthurt since at least Obama's election.
Leviticus 19:34The Religious Right are the most coldblooded, mercenary, and downright unprincipled voting bloc in the entire country. They looked at Trump, heard his fascist rhetoric, and have learned to accept his stupidity because they know that through him, they get the conservative judges, the strangehold on abortion access, the throttling of Planned Parenthood, religious control over public education, promotes xenophobia, and a whole host of odious aims that the Democrats have kept at bay. They willingly goosestep behind the exact antithesis of someone who represents everything, in granular detail, that they profess to hate, because he'll facilitate their fundamental cruelty.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Apr 1st 2019 at 11:04:27 AM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Mostly because saying "Jesus wants us to help the poor" may attract center or independent Christian voters, but will likely turn off more non-Christian or non-religious liberal voters than you'd make back in Christian Waffler votes. The right can focus on religious rhetoric because everyone on the right knows that only Christianity is correct and everything else is heathen garbage and probably Sharia Law, but the left is a lot more diverse.
My aunt is... I want to say a Unitarian chaplain, and very liberal, and I see her making religious arguments for voting and looking out for the poor and disadvantaged to her clergy on Facebook, but I don't know how much newcomer appeal that has, especially up in Maine.
Edited by RedSavant on Apr 1st 2019 at 11:45:49 AM
It's been fun.Bringing up the comic by webcomic artist David Willis.
I'm not seeing it, by and large - though I see the existence of the worry. The majority of Americans, across the political spectrum, say they won't vote for an atheist candidate. The radical Sanderista left might balk, but the thought of leftists voting Republican out of protest for a religious Democrat...
...Well, it sounds perfectly plausible, but any Sanderistas who'd defect over that were already going to defect for some other crazy reason.
A reminder that atheists are apparently treated with as much scorn in the USA as rapists. Possibly more.
This is admittedly a pretty old article from 2012. But I doubt things have changed that much.
From Scientific American: In Atheists We Distrust
Edited by M84 on Apr 2nd 2019 at 12:02:38 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedAgreed, I'm an Atheist and if I saw a politician using that argument I would just approve of their support of good policy while understanding that we're in a religious country.
If they're reasonable about it (which considering the Religious Left is rather likely) then there's no problem and I don't think other Irreligious Democrats would feel any different.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangBiden is developing some real #MeToo issues: Connecticut woman says Joe Biden touched her inappropriately at a 2009 fundraiser
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Also, something relating to Bernie: Black Voters Like Bernie Sanders Just Fine — They Just Might Like Other Candidates More
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For one, I am a swing voter. I don't support a specific party, I decide during every election anew who gets my vote, based on their policies and whatever candidate is running for my district. Just because the CDU hasn't made it on my unelectable list yet (but frankly, they are moving closer and closer recently) doesn't mean that I am a CDU supporter.
Two, I am not living in Bavaria. During the election during which I decided to vote for the CDU, the candidates I voted for don't sprout this kind of BS. And I consider voting those in important to keep the CDU more to the middle.
Three, I once even voted for a chancellor I hated specifically to keep a chancellor candidate which WAS sprouting this kind of BS away from power.
Sadly I am forced to vote tactical more often than not. During the last election I quite liked The Humanists, since they had a stricter cut between state and church as part of their program, but due to the need to keep the Af D at bay, smaller parties weren't really an option.
Edited by Swanpride on Apr 1st 2019 at 11:59:51 AM
This is the dumbest thing I´ve ever read.

Speaking of the Religious Right, my dad sent me a fascinating (but tragic) article
about the relation between decline in church attendance in certain counties in Iowa and popularity of Trump in the primaries (and, eventually, the election itself). Basically, Trump was seen as a surrogate to pastors- if people weren't going to get sermons in closed-down or dying churches, they were going to get them on the campaign trail, even though Trump is hardly a pastor or even an example of Christian behavior.
Keep in mind this is before Pence was chosen as his running mate, which really sealed the deal for a lot of the Religious Right.
Edited by speedyboris on Apr 1st 2019 at 8:58:40 AM