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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#275877: Mar 27th 2019 at 1:36:54 PM

Potential good polling news, a CNN poll found that only 4 in 10 respondents believe that Barr's Mueller summary fully exonerates Trump of collusion. 58% of independents aren't buying Trump's victory lap.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/cnn-poll-mueller-reaction-exoneration/index.html

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Mar 27th 2019 at 5:37:41 AM

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#275878: Mar 27th 2019 at 2:59:34 PM

I meant it was a victory over Trump, because the fact he now feels compelled to change his tune on healthcare means he's effectively lost that argument.

Ah, that makes much more sense. Got it.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#275880: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:01:48 PM

OK,deep breath

-Coughs-

JUST LEAK IT ALREADY!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#275881: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:03:42 PM

Bad idea, the report very likely has classified information that may be pertinent to other investigations. Leaking it would be a terrible idea legally and from a PR perspective, they want to claim the efforts to investigate Trump are fraudulent and that would just support their claim.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#275882: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:16:27 PM

Not to mention how this country treats leakers.

Reminder that Snowden's in exile, and Manning is being held in solitary - again.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#275883: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:20:23 PM

The Smollett Case has one upside in that every time the Trump o phile supporters bring up "no charges but not exonerated" you can throw it back in their face regarding Der Cheeto.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#275884: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:25:47 PM

Did it need exaggerating? I thought they'd been downplaying it. What good would making it seem worse do them?

I meant that it was a crisis before Mitch but all the laws he's made regarding it have made it worse and apparently deliberately. He's done his best to block people from being able to get rehab, to prevent any laws from being enacted to prevent pharmaceutical companies from selling high addictive painkillers to the public, from encouraging doctors to prescribe them, from being able to sue either, and making alternative pain killers work. He's also made it difficult to prosecute the dealers, which is even against Republican "arrest everyone for it" business.

One of these things could be coincidence. This is a strategy.

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A procrastination in of itself
#275885: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:45:06 PM

[up]X3 It would help if the leakers showed some level of ethics, Manning seems to think she's above the law (and is protecting a rapist that works for Russian intelligence) while Snowden decided to hide out in Russia and take pot shots at entirely legitimate intelligence operations.

The US treats leakers badly, it also has a number of high profile leakers who have serious issues when it comes to unethical behaviour.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#275886: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:51:02 PM

[up]I think Mannings treatment and torture at the US government's hands means that she has every right to refuse to cooperate.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 27th 2019 at 3:51:33 AM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#275887: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:57:27 PM

Why? Being abused by the authorities dosen't give you a get out of jail free card to ignore the authorities when they're right.

In the end she's the one choosing to protect a rapist who works for a foreign adversary. The same way that the government doesn't get a pass on its abuses of her (the torture, the fact that her entire dissatisfaction with the government comes from it deliberately ignoring her real medical needs) just because she did bad things, she dosen't get a pass on her active bad deeds because she was abused by the government.

Edited by Silasw on Mar 27th 2019 at 10:57:50 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#275888: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:59:31 PM

[up] Especially because she was angered specifically by the whole private grand jury thing - she was willing to talk in the open. Which makes sense, as she's a leaker who was arrested the first time for airing things out in the open.

Also, as I posted earlier she's having health issues again because of the nature of her confinement. Which does not make me any more sympathetic to the Government in this case.

Seriously - are you so determined to get any scrap of information about Assange (a man we already have evidence as being a criminal) that you're willing to overlook any and all complaints against abuses towards the system?

Edited by AzurePaladin on Mar 27th 2019 at 7:01:14 AM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#275889: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:01:16 PM

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/03/27/day-797/

    Day 797: Difficult decisions 
1/ Trump pledged to have a plan "far better than Obamacare" if the Supreme Court strikes down the entire Affordable Care Act, saying "I understand health care now." Trump did not provided details about what health care plan would replace the ACA, but reiterated his baseless claim that the Republican Party will now be the "party of great health care." A district judge in Texas ruled that the entire law was unconstitutional after Trump's tax law eliminated the Affordable Care Act's individual insurance mandate penalty. Yesterday, the Justice Department took the position that the entire ACA should be overturned. The ACA insurance exchanges and Medicaid expansion provide health care coverage from more than 20 million people. (Politico / CBS News / New York Times / NBC News)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-on-gops-renewed-efforts-on-ending-obamacare-i-understand-healthcare-now/

What happens if the Affordable Care Act is overturned? 21 million people could lose their health insurance and 12 million adults could lose Medicaid coverage. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/health/obamacare-trump-health.html

2/ House Minority Leader Kevin Mc Carthy told Trump he disagrees with the administration's attempt to get the entire Affordable Care Act thrown out in court. Mc Carthy reportedly told Trump that the decision made no sense without a plan in place to replace the ACA heading in the 2020 elections. Republican officials are privately blaming Mick Mulvaney, domestic policy chief Joe Grogan, and acting director of the Office of Management and Budget Russ Vought for engineering Trump's new position. (Axios / Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-gop-leader-mccarthy-sought-to-deter-trump-from-pursuing-destruction-of-obamacare/2019/03/27/272b1632-50b1-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html

The Trump administration's move to invalidate the Affordable Care Act came despite the opposition from the heads of the Justice Department and Health and Human Services Department. Alex Azar argued against backing the lawsuit seeking the full repeal of the health care law, citing the lack of a Republican alternative. William Barr, meanwhile, opposed the plan based on skepticism among conservative lawyers about the wisdom of seeking to overturn the law. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/26/trump-obamacare-reversal-cabinet-1238359

3/ Betsy De Vos defended her proposal to eliminate $17.6 million in federal funding for the Special Olympics, calling it a "difficult decisions" because she thinks "that the Special Olympics is an awesome organization," but "the federal government cannot fund every worthy program, particularly ones that enjoy robust support from private donations." About 272,000 children would be affected from the funding cut to the Special Olympics. Overall, De Vos' proposed budget would eliminate 29 programs covering arts, civics and literacy for an annual savings of $6.7 billion – or about a 12% cut to the Education Department's budget. Meanwhile, De Vos has proposed creating a $5 billion federal voucher system for private schools. It was the third year in a row that De Vos called for eliminating funding for Special Olympic events at schools. Devos blamed the media and some members of Congress for "falsehoods and fully misrepresenting the facts." (Detroit Free Press / NBC News / CNN / Wall Street Journal / Politico / Washington Post)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/betsy-devos-special-olympics-cuts/index.html

The chairman of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee that determines Department of Education funding levels rejected De Vos' proposed cuts to the Special Olympics. Sen. Roy Blunt said "Our Department of Education appropriations bill will not cut funding for the program." (The Hill)

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/436097-gop-senator-says-special-olympics-cuts-will-not-be-approved

Trump's last five trips to Mar-a-Lago would cover the proposed Special Olympics cuts. Trump's trips to his private club in Florida cost taxpayers about $3.4 million. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/27/five-trump-trips-mar-a-lago-would-cover-betsy-devoss-proposed-special-olympics-cuts/

poll/ 48% of Americans still believe Trump conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election, despite the summary of Mueller's findings suggesting no evidence of a conspiracy. (Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-poll/despite-report-findings-almost-half-of-americans-think-trump-colluded-with-russia-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1R72S0

poll/ 56% of Americans don't believe that Trump and his campaign have been exonerated of collusion. 77% of Republicans say Trump has been exonerated, 80% of Democrats and 58% of Independents say he has not. (CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/cnn-poll-mueller-reaction-exoneration/index.html

poll/ 47% of Americans approve of Trump's handling of the economy while 43% disapprove. (CNBC)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/optimism-about-economy-dips-but-americans-still-feel-it-is-in-good-shape-under-trump-cnbc-survey.html

    Notables 
Robert Mueller's grand jury is "continuing robustly" despite the end of his investigation, indicating that the ongoing cases Mueller handed off could still result in further indictments. Two former federal prosecutors said the grand jury activity may indicate that the office is pursuing matters spun off from the Mueller probe. (Politico / Bloomberg / CNBC / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/mueller-grand-jury-investigation/index.html

Mitch Mc Connell blocked a second resolution in the Senate calling for Mueller's report to be made public. Senate Judiciary Chair Diane Feinstein attempted to get unanimous consent to pass a Senate version of a non-binding resolution that passed in the House with a vote of 420-0. Mc Connell objected to her request and said that Attorney General William Barr is still working with Mueller to determine which parts of the report – if any – should be made public. (The Hill / Axios)

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/436006-mcconnell-blocks-resolution-calling-for-release-of-mueller-report

Mc Connell supports a Republican effort to investigate alleged political bias against Trump at the Justice Department and the FBI, spearheaded by Lindsey Graham. "I think it's not inappropriate for the chairman of the Judiciary with jurisdiction over the Justice Department to investigate possible misbehavior," Mc Connell said. (Politico / Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-graham-idUSKCN1R72F7

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff doubled down on his claims that he has seen evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. "Undoubtedly there is collusion. We will continue to investigate the counterintelligence issues. That is, is the president or people around him compromised in any way by a hostile foreign power? . . . It doesn't appear that was any part of Mueller's report." House Democrats gave William Barr until April 2 to deliver a copy of the Mueller report to Congress. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/undoubtedly-there-is-collusion-trump-antagonist-adam-schiff-doubles-down-after-mueller-finds-no-conspiracy/2019/03/26/e972d9e8-4fdd-11e9-a3f7-78b7525a8d5f_story.html?noredirect=on

The House Judiciary Committee unanimously approved legislation directing the Justice Department to give Congress all records on FBI obstruction of justice or counterintelligence probes against Trump. The full House now has the opportunity to vote on the measure. Approval would give Barr 14 days to comply with the demand for all records and communications, as well any discussions within the Justice Department about recording Trump or seeking to replace him by invoking the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. (Politico / Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-obstruction/house-panel-oks-move-to-give-congress-records-of-fbi-probes-against-trump-idUSKCN1R71Z7

The House Oversight and Reform Committee requested 10 years of Trump's financial records from an accounting firm that prepared several years of financial statements for Trump. The request comes after testimony from Michael Cohen, who raised questions about whether Trump inflated or deflated the value of his financial assets during the course of past business transactions. (Politico / CNBC / Daily Beast)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/house-oversight-committee-requests-10-years-of-trump-financial-records.html

Seven former senior Trump aides may have violated federal law by failing to disclose their future employment on financial reports. High-level staffers are required to disclose their future employment to identify potential conflicts of interest between their White House positions and new employers. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/27/trump-aides-ethics-1238160

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#275890: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:03:10 PM

It's entirely possible for everyone in the situation to be wrong, she's being kept in a US jail, that's almost a given that her conditions are inhuman (especially when you consider the fact that she can't be kept in general population for her own safety), that dosen't make her refusal to follow the law right.

Two wrongs don't make a right, they just make everyone an asshole.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#275891: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:05:43 PM

Right but being tortured over leaking is unjustified,prison sure but actual torture is plain wrong

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#275892: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:06:50 PM

[up][up] Sorry, not buying it. Plenty of protests involve some measure of disobedience against the Government, and I'm not going to put refusing to testify to a private jury on the grounds of it being private on the same level as making someone ill via solitary confinement. There's very clearly a group in the worse here.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Mar 27th 2019 at 7:07:05 AM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#275893: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:09:34 PM

Protecting Julian Assange is different from protecting the work she did with Julian Assange in exposing countless corrupt deals as well as misuse of power.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 27th 2019 at 4:11:05 AM

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#275895: Mar 27th 2019 at 6:33:16 PM

[up]And apparently said laws are at the moment still unenforceable due to a separate ruling.

Yay?

Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#275896: Mar 27th 2019 at 6:34:04 PM

[up][up] For fuck's sake...

Edited by Bur on Mar 27th 2019 at 8:34:15 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#275897: Mar 27th 2019 at 6:34:59 PM

Does that seem unusually fast for an appeal ruling?

Ingonyama Since: Jan, 2001
#275898: Mar 27th 2019 at 8:02:47 PM

[up]x4: So now it goes to the Wisconsin Supreme Court...

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#275899: Mar 27th 2019 at 8:35:37 PM

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/26/18281323/green-new-deal-democrats-vote

Senate Democrats aren’t having it with Republican trolling on the Green New Deal.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mc Connell held a procedural vote on the resolution — a wide-ranging progressive wish list aimed at making the US carbon-neutral by 2030 — this week, in an effort to get Democrats on the record about their support for the ambitious proposal. And Democrats, largely, didn’t bite.

Nearly all members of the Democratic caucus voted “present” when the resolution came up for a vote on Tuesday, with just four breaking and voting against it. Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), and Doug Jones (D-AL), all lawmakers from more moderate or conservative states voted “No” on the resolution. Sen. Angus King (I-ME), an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, also voted against it.

Democrats predominately voted “present” on the resolution as a means of calling out Republicans, who had set up this vote to highlight potential splits in the Democratic caucus and force lawmakers to splinter from a high-profile, progressive idea.

As the thinking goes, if only part of the Democratic caucus wound up backing the idea, Republicans could argue that it didn’t actually have enough support from the party. They could also suggest that 2020 Senate Democrats — all of whom have expressed support for the proposal — weren’t actually down to follow through, if they didn’t vote in favor of it. Additionally, the move was aimed at putting Democrats from more moderate states in a tough position, forcing them to choose between backing a popular liberal idea and potentially turning off some of their constituents.

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#275900: Mar 27th 2019 at 11:51:53 PM

Goddamnit, Sinema.


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