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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
"Odd occasion"? Hasn't the Trump Administration been a relative sieve?
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If that's in reference to "Mueller is a public servant first" everything I've heard about him suggests that reputation. Remember that, if nothing else, he was appointed by a Republican Congress.
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: I'm noting that he's, far as I can tell, lived up to that rep.
Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:57:56 AM
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Oh boy, I see we're starting to go into "Mueller is a partisan Bush appointee", after praising him for two years, because he didn't produce what democrats would like, despite handling the investigation with utmost professionalism.
@sgamer: No worries, I meant to direct it at Cream, who it appears can't attack Mueller on the manner in which he behaves, so is using his gender, as if men were a homogeneous think thank, to plant the seed of doubt in his conduct.
Life is unfair...I'm not trying to plant anything. I'm expressing my own personal opinion. I don't trust politicians, especially the ones that identify with the male gender.
I never once praised him in the last two years. I loathe hero worship. All the memes made me sick.
I also can't think of any good possible reason why this report wouldn't support Trump and his administration being the criminals that we KNOW they are. So, if it doesn't do that, there's a huge problem.
Edited by Cream on Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:10:46 AM
Rawr.Other than the fact that the very process of creating this report had resulted in multiple Trump flunkies being indicted and at least three convicted?
Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:17:23 AM
More indictments served than to any previous executive branch (including Nixon's), more trials underway, more time in the process of being handed out, more pissed off LEO, prosecution and judges, more transparently entitled defences with all the robustness of spun sugar shields...
Total failure? System totally wrecked? Time to TERF it to the max like it's 1981?
Sure it is... <_<
Edited by Euodiachloris on Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:25:59 PM
This is completely irrational, why does having a penis and testes make a politician less trustworthy? Not to mention the idea that all politicians are untrustworthy is moronic nonsense that is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This is just bizarre, why would they make you sick? Even if the investigation was not a silver bullet he's still a civil servant with an excellent record. There's nothing wrong with people respecting or praising him.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangWisconsin Dem governor removes 82 Scott Walker appointees added during lame-duck session
Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) on Friday removed 82 appointments made by his predecessor, Gov. Scott Walker (R), during last year's lame-duck legislative session.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that Evers's decision comes just a day after Dane County Circuit Judge Richard Niess invalidated the confirmation of Walker's appointments during a December overnight session.
Niess said Thursday that he was voiding all appointments and legislation passed during the December session, stating that lawmakers convened the session in a way that violated the state's constitution, according to the news outlet.
"These seats are now considered vacant, but we are committed to working as quickly as possible to fill them and minimize the disruption to the important work done by these boards, committees and councils," Evers spokeswoman Melissa Baldauff said in a statement to the Journal Sentinel.
The Republican-led state Senate will not be able to reconfirm Walker's appointments following the ruling.
"We absolutely believe that these nominees were nominated and confirmed legally and will continue to serve in those positions once the constitutionality of the extraordinary [legislative] session is upheld," Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R) said in a statement, calling the move "irresponsible."
Evers, according to the paper, is using the judge's decision to counter Walker's attempts to limit his powers upon taking office.
The lame-duck laws were passed after Evers and state Attorney General Josh Kaul (D) were elected but before they took office, severely limiting their power.
Evers announced Thursday that Wisconsin would no longer be a part of a multistate lawsuit seeking the repeal of the Affordable Care Act. The two had been prevented from getting out of the lawsuit because of one lame-duck measure. 8
Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:32:17 AM
First: Mueller isn't a politician, he's an FBI investigator - there's a fairly large difference. Second... where to even start. For parody's sake - "I don't trust politicians, especially the ones that identify with the female gender." Hopefully that alone will suffice for why taking a broadstrokes approach to people is a bad idea.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"The reason why these people have been sacked is that a judge has ruled that the lame duck session where Republicans passed all their stitch-ups was violating the state constitution and that thus all appointments and laws passed through the session were invalid.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI guess the question I have that may be answered by the Muller report is as follows:
Would Muller have wrapped up his investigation at this point under a Republican Congress?
It's clear that with Republican control of both houses, nothing was ever going to be investigated. In many ways, Muller was the only check and balance on the administration. Now with a Democrat House, stuff is getting done.
From what I understand, Muller's report will say why people were not indicted. If it says because they're innocent, fine. If it says "because we couldn't get evidence from xxx" well that is going to be like a red rag to a bull to the Democrat oversight committees.
We've already seen points where there have been clashes between Muller and House investigations as they try not to step on each other's tail. From a constitutional perspective it is the role of the legislative to undertake this work. So I wonder if he is shutting up shop because this will clear the way for the congressional investigations to take up the baton.
With Rosenstein leaving, it does make sense to move the work away from the Department of Justice into the House Oversight Committee now.
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Rawr.