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Cream Creamier~ from Planet NTR Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#275352: Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:52:50 AM

or someone leaks the full thing,unlikely,but leaks do happen on the odd occasion

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#275353: Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:53:52 AM

"Odd occasion"? Hasn't the Trump Administration been a relative sieve?

[up][up] If that's in reference to "Mueller is a public servant first" everything I've heard about him suggests that reputation. Remember that, if nothing else, he was appointed by a Republican Congress.

Edit due to [down][down]: I'm noting that he's, far as I can tell, lived up to that rep.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:57:56 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#275354: Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:55:25 AM

I meant in general

Still hoping its literally one page that spells out "He's guilty!"

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Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#275355: Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:56:10 AM

[up][up] Oh boy, I see we're starting to go into "Mueller is a partisan Bush appointee", after praising him for two years, because he didn't produce what democrats would like, despite handling the investigation with utmost professionalism.

Life is unfair...
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#275356: Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:56:17 AM

Ah. And it's true that Mueller experienced very few leaks, if I recall correctly.

[up] if that's directed at me, I'm noting he's lived up to his 'public servant' reputation.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:57:25 AM

Cream Creamier~ from Planet NTR Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Creamier~
#275357: Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:57:32 AM

Mueller is human, and more importantly, he's a man.

Two categories I'm growing increasingly distrustful of.

We'll see.

Rawr.
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#275358: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:04:11 AM

@sgamer: No worries, I meant to direct it at Cream, who it appears can't attack Mueller on the manner in which he behaves, so is using his gender, as if men were a homogeneous think thank, to plant the seed of doubt in his conduct.

Life is unfair...
Cream Creamier~ from Planet NTR Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Creamier~
#275359: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:08:53 AM

I'm not trying to plant anything. I'm expressing my own personal opinion. I don't trust politicians, especially the ones that identify with the male gender.

I never once praised him in the last two years. I loathe hero worship. All the memes made me sick.

I also can't think of any good possible reason why this report wouldn't support Trump and his administration being the criminals that we KNOW they are. So, if it doesn't do that, there's a huge problem.

Edited by Cream on Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:10:46 AM

Rawr.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#275360: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:16:07 AM

I also can't think of any good possible reason why this report wouldn't support Trump and his administration being the criminals that we KNOW they are. So, if it doesn't do that, there's a huge problem.

Other than the fact that the very process of creating this report had resulted in multiple Trump flunkies being indicted and at least three convicted?

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:17:23 AM

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#275361: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:21:54 AM

More indictments served than to any previous executive branch (including Nixon's), more trials underway, more time in the process of being handed out, more pissed off LEO, prosecution and judges, more transparently entitled defences with all the robustness of spun sugar shields...

Total failure? System totally wrecked? Time to TERF it to the max like it's 1981?

Sure it is... <_<

Edited by Euodiachloris on Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:25:59 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#275362: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:23:54 AM

I'm not trying to plant anything. I'm expressing my own personal opinion. I don't trust politicians, especially the ones that identify with the male gender.

This is completely irrational, why does having a penis and testes make a politician less trustworthy? Not to mention the idea that all politicians are untrustworthy is moronic nonsense that is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I never once praised him in the last two years. I loathe hero worship. All the memes made me sick.

This is just bizarre, why would they make you sick? Even if the investigation was not a silver bullet he's still a civil servant with an excellent record. There's nothing wrong with people respecting or praising him.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#275363: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:24:04 AM

Wisconsin Dem governor removes 82 Scott Walker appointees added during lame-duck session

Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) on Friday removed 82 appointments made by his predecessor, Gov. Scott Walker (R), during last year's lame-duck legislative session.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that Evers's decision comes just a day after Dane County Circuit Judge Richard Niess invalidated the confirmation of Walker's appointments during a December overnight session.

Niess said Thursday that he was voiding all appointments and legislation passed during the December session, stating that lawmakers convened the session in a way that violated the state's constitution, according to the news outlet.

"These seats are now considered vacant, but we are committed to working as quickly as possible to fill them and minimize the disruption to the important work done by these boards, committees and councils," Evers spokeswoman Melissa Baldauff said in a statement to the Journal Sentinel.

The Republican-led state Senate will not be able to reconfirm Walker's appointments following the ruling.

"We absolutely believe that these nominees were nominated and confirmed legally and will continue to serve in those positions once the constitutionality of the extraordinary [legislative] session is upheld," Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R) said in a statement, calling the move "irresponsible."

Evers, according to the paper, is using the judge's decision to counter Walker's attempts to limit his powers upon taking office.

The lame-duck laws were passed after Evers and state Attorney General Josh Kaul (D) were elected but before they took office, severely limiting their power.

Evers announced Thursday that Wisconsin would no longer be a part of a multistate lawsuit seeking the repeal of the Affordable Care Act. The two had been prevented from getting out of the lawsuit because of one lame-duck measure. 8

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#275364: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:27:06 AM

Can anyone explain to me why they're being removed?

Genuinely curious

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#275365: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:28:46 AM

Not to mention the idea that all politicians are untrustworthy is moronic nonsense that is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.
We very recently had a whole conversation about this, in fact.
[up] I presume because they were appointed in the name of "DEMOCRATS BAD!!!!!", given they were done during the period when the legislature gutted executive power as soon as a Dem became governor.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:32:17 AM

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#275366: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:29:14 AM

[up][up]Because they were appointed to be rubberstamps for Rebublican views — no other qualifications required.

And, there is sufficient reason to suspect that most paid time and money to get their positions.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:31:11 PM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#275367: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:31:09 AM

Also that happened during a lame duck periood, in which you can't just do shit like this.

The outgoing governor basically tried to sabotage his successor in office.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 23rd 2019 at 2:32:00 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#275368: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:40:16 AM

I do feel a certain shadenfreude/sympathy for Walker: that's a lot of Good Ol' Boys he broke handshake deals with. That cushy position they were promised for years? *poof*

And, should those lice not get entirely distracted by "Dems Bad", there are a lot of them to gang up on him.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#275369: Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:01:19 AM

I'm not trying to plant anything. I'm expressing my own personal opinion. I don't trust politicians, especially the ones that identify with the male gender.

First: Mueller isn't a politician, he's an FBI investigator - there's a fairly large difference. Second... where to even start. For parody's sake - "I don't trust politicians, especially the ones that identify with the female gender." Hopefully that alone will suffice for why taking a broadstrokes approach to people is a bad idea.

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#275370: Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:07:19 AM

The only way it could possibly have some relevance is if this was an investigation into sexual assault, not foreign election interference.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#275371: Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:08:47 AM

The reason why these people have been sacked is that a judge has ruled that the lame duck session where Republicans passed all their stitch-ups was violating the state constitution and that thus all appointments and laws passed through the session were invalid.

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singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#275372: Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:33:59 AM

I guess the question I have that may be answered by the Muller report is as follows:

Would Muller have wrapped up his investigation at this point under a Republican Congress?

It's clear that with Republican control of both houses, nothing was ever going to be investigated. In many ways, Muller was the only check and balance on the administration. Now with a Democrat House, stuff is getting done.

From what I understand, Muller's report will say why people were not indicted. If it says because they're innocent, fine. If it says "because we couldn't get evidence from xxx" well that is going to be like a red rag to a bull to the Democrat oversight committees.

We've already seen points where there have been clashes between Muller and House investigations as they try not to step on each other's tail. From a constitutional perspective it is the role of the legislative to undertake this work. So I wonder if he is shutting up shop because this will clear the way for the congressional investigations to take up the baton.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#275373: Mar 23rd 2019 at 7:44:38 AM

@Singularity: [tup]

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#275374: Mar 23rd 2019 at 8:46:58 AM

[up]Seconded.

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#275375: Mar 23rd 2019 at 9:03:17 AM

With Rosenstein leaving, it does make sense to move the work away from the Department of Justice into the House Oversight Committee now.

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