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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#274651: Mar 18th 2019 at 3:50:16 PM

[up][up]

It's just one of those weird idiosyncrasies, like "a few" generally meaning 3-4 of a particular thing, but there's no actual fixed number attached to it.

And page-topper context - this is about the fact that "Congressperson" can mean both the Senate and House, but generally applies to the House as "Representative" is far more ambiguous, and Senator is a much more exclusive term.

Edited by ironballs16 on Mar 18th 2019 at 6:51:34 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#274652: Mar 18th 2019 at 3:57:46 PM

It's not really that complicated? If you're in Congress, you're a Congressperson. Congress is divided into the Senate and the House of Representatives. Therefore all Congresspeople are either Senators or Representatives. However, "representative" is ambiguous (lots of people are representatives of lots of things, most of which have nothing to do with government), so Representatives are often called "Congresspeople" (accurate but less specific) or "members of the House" (specific but wordier) instead.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#274653: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:00:25 PM

Trump response to New Zealand massacre highlights his combative history with Muslims

Basically instead of actually condemning the attack and White Supremacy he claims the media is saying it's his fault.

Though, apparently the guy who did it, a white Australian man, referred to Trump as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose" in his manifesto.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#274654: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:05:11 PM

[up]Because Trump is clearly the ''real'' victim in all this.

Of course, that probably is what he actually believes. He's just that self-centered.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#274655: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:51:07 PM

[up] I wouldn't put it past the Dotard to look at the Christchurch Attack and think "How can I use this to make myself look good?"

Instead of, y'know, showing some humanity.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#274656: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:52:14 PM

We are talking about a man who can't get denouncing Nazis right.

[down] I repeat.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 18th 2019 at 9:54:32 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#274657: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:53:18 PM

And the thing is, I think we all knew he would say something like this.

Disgusted, but not surprised
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#274658: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:56:14 PM

[up][up] He said exactly what he meant to say. The man is openly and blatantly supporting white supremacy and has been for years. It’s not a gaffe or an empathy gap, he is a violent bigot.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#274659: Mar 18th 2019 at 8:59:34 PM

The issue with Trump is that it's sometimes hard to decipher when he's acting in stupidity, malice, or a combination of the two. But it's usually the combo.

Disgusted, but not surprised
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#274660: Mar 18th 2019 at 9:19:28 PM

You know, at this point they should just cut him off from any social media and press access whenever something terrible happens - because no comment would vastly better than whatever asinine bullshit he keeps spouting in these situations.

"The president can't be arsed to condemn Neo-Nazis, so at least let's prevent him from shitting all over the place again".

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 18th 2019 at 5:20:23 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#274661: Mar 18th 2019 at 9:39:39 PM

But no one can be assed to do that.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#274662: Mar 18th 2019 at 9:43:26 PM

Old news.

David Duke said Donald Trump's election was the rebirth of white supremacy after he was elected.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#274663: Mar 18th 2019 at 9:49:09 PM

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/03/18/day-788/

    Day 788: Pathetic 
1/ Trump attacked the late John Mc Cain on Twitter for his involvement in sharing the dossier allegedly linking Trump to the Russian government. After the 2016 election, Mc Cain turned the Steele dossier over to the FBI, which Trump called "unfortunately a very dark stain against John Mc Cain." Trump incorrectly claimed that Mc Cain had "sent the Fake Dossier to the FBI and Media hoping to have it printed BEFORE the Election." He continued to complain about that longtime Republican lawmaker, who died last year, "had far worse 'stains'" than the dossier, "including thumbs down on repeal and replace after years of campaigning to repeal and replace!" Trump's statements about Mc Cain were actually quotes from Ken Starr, who recently appeared on Fox News. (CNBC / Washington Post / New York Times)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/17/trump-criticizes-john-mccain-over-russia-investigation-and-dossier.html

Meghan Mc Cain accused Trump of leading a "pathetic life" by obsessing over her father, who died almost seven months ago. Mc Cain continued: "Your life is spent on your weekends not with your family, not with your friends, but obsessing, obsessing over great men you could never live up to." (Washington Post / Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/18/meghan-mccain-donald-trump-1225108

Christopher Steele admitted that he used internet searches and unverified information to support some details he had gathered about a web company mentioned in the dossier. (CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/16/politics/steele-information-dossier/index.html

2/ Trump accused "the fake news media" of attempting to blame him for the mass shooting at two mosques in New Zealand, calling it "So Ridiculous!" In a manifesto, the alleged gunman called Trump "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose," and referred to immigrants as "invaders within our lands." Trump told reporters he doesn't believe white nationalism is a rising threat around the world, suggesting "it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems, I guess." (Politico / Washington Post)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/18/trump-new-zealand-shooting-1224867

3/ Mick Mulvaney: Trump "is not a white supremacist." The acting chief of staff went on to say it was "absurd" to draw a connection between Trump's statements about immigration and the acts of a shooter who embraced both white nationalism and Trump. Last week Trump called undocumented immigrants coming to U.S. an "invasion" as he vetoed a congressional resolution that would block his declaration of a national emergency at the U.S. border with Mexico. (Washington Post / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/17/politics/mick-mulvaney-trump-white-nationalism-new-zealand/index.html

The House Judiciary Committee plans to host a hearing on the rise of white nationalism in the U.S. and the hate crime and hate speech surrounding the movement. (Daily Beast)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/house-judiciary-committee-planning-hearing-on-the-rise-of-white-nationalism

4/ Trump called for Fox News to bring back Jeanine Pirro after she was suspended for questioning a Muslim lawmaker's loyalty to the United States during an on-air monologue. Pirro asked if Representative Ilhan Omar's "adherence to this Islamic doctrine indicative of her adherence to Shariah law, which in itself is antithetical to the United States Constitution?" Fox News said Pirro's remarks "do not reflect those of the network and we have addressed the matter with her directly." Trump claimed "The Radical Left Democrats, working closely with their beloved partner, the Fake News Media, is using every trick in the book to SILENCE a majority of our Country." Trump also tweeted his support for Tucker Carlson, who has also recently faced criticism for a series of racist, xenophobic, sexist, and other comments. "Stay true," Trump tweeted, "to the people that got you there. Keep fighting for Tucker, and fight hard for @Judge Jeanine." (CNN / Politico / New York Times)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/17/trump-fox-1224362

5/ Federal authorities raided the office of Elliot Broidy last summer in order to obtain documents related to the fundraiser's dealings with foreign officials and Trump administration associates. Federal agents searched Broidy's office for documents related to China, Saudi Arabia, and a Miami Beach club promoter related to conspiracy, money laundering, and crimes associated with illegal lobbying on behalf of foreign officials. The sealed warrant revealed government investigators took a similar approach to searching Michael Cohen's office. Broidy served as a Trump campaign fundraiser and was the national deputy finance chair of the Republican National Committee until he resigned in April 2018, after it was revealed he had secretly paid off a former Playboy model in exchange for her silence about their affair. (Pro Publica / Daily Beast)

https://www.propublica.org/article/federal-authorities-raided-trump-fundraisers-office-in-money-laundering-probe

📌 Day 578: The Justice Department is investigating whether Elliott Broidy tried to sell his influence with the Trump administration. The longtime Republican fundraiser resigned from his RNC position in April after it was reported that he paid a former Playboy model $1.6 million in exchange for her silence about a sexual affair. Michael Cohen arranged the settlement. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-lawyer-negotiated-16-million-settlement-for-gop-donor-with-playboy-model/2018/04/13/2f051f90-3f3e-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?noredirect=on

📌 GOP fundraiser Broidy under investigation for alleged effort to sell government influence, people familiar with probe say. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-fundraiser-broidy-under-investigation-for-alleged-effort-to-sell-government-influence-people-familiar-with-probe-say/2018/08/17/c9e55792-a185-11e8-8e87-c869fe70a721_story.html?noredirect=on

📌 Ex-Fugees member Pras Michel denies wrongdoing in alleged effort to stop Malaysian corruption probe. (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ex-fugees-member-pras-michel-denies-wrongdoing-in-alleged-effort-to-stop-malaysian-corruption-probe/2018/12/05/0a19dbf0-f82d-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?noredirect=on

6/ Trump claimed he encouraged House Republicans to vote in favor of a resolution calling on the Justice Department to make Robert Mueller's final report public. Earlier in the day, however, Trump tweeted that the special counsel "should never have been appointed" and that "there should be no Mueller Report." The House approved the resolution last week 420-0 to demand that Attorney General William Barr release Mueller's entire report and make it available to Congress. The resolution was blocked by Republicans in the Senate. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/16/trump-mueller-report-1224004

poll/ 52% of Americans have little or no trust in Trump's denials that his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia. 28%, meanwhile, say they have a lot of trust in Robert Mueller's investigation to be fair and accurate. 50% agree that Trump is the victim of a "witch hunt" while 47% disagree. (USA Today)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/

    Notables 
The U.S. military now plans to keep nearly 1,000 forces in Syria. Three months ago, Trump ordered a complete withdrawal. (Wall Street Journal)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-now-preparing-to-leave-as-many-as-1-000-troops-in-syria-11552853378

Kirsten Gillibrand formally launched her presidential bid, announcing she will deliver her speech next week in front of Trump International Hotel in New York City. (Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-gillibrand/senator-gillibrand-formally-launches-presidential-campaign-idUSKCN1QY0FQ

Trump pulled Rudy Giuliani from doing TV interviews after the lawyer claimed the Trump Tower Moscow talks may have lasted up until November 2016. The Sunday, January 20th appearance was Giuliani's last – other than a March 8 comment, where he said Paul Manafort's short jail sentence was fair. (Axios)

https://www.axios.com/rudy-giuliani-cable-television-mueller-report-d961eecc-271b-488c-bdb3-3c1c459e9027.html

Ben Carson's daily schedule from 2017 shows that the HUD secretary met with his staff once a week and left work before 2 p.m. on most Fridays to fly to his Florida mansion. (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/ben-carson-s-schedule-shows-friday-trips-florida-lunch-my-n983526

Trump tweeted that he wanted the General Motors Ohio plant to be "opened or sold to a company who will open it up fast!" In November, G.M. announced that it would idle five factories in North America and cut roughly 14,000 jobs to trim costs. Trump's tweets were an attempt to pressure G.M. and the United Automobile Workers union to begin negotiations on an agreement that would put the plant back to work. Trump added that the president of U.A.W. "ought to get his act together and produce." (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/business/trump-gm-plant.html

Kellyanne Conway's husband believes that Trump's mental condition is deteriorating. Kellyanne disagrees. George Conway tweeted last week that "whether or not impeachment is in order, a serious inquiry needs to be made about this man's condition of mind." He continued through the weekend by tweeting screenshots from American Psychiatric Association's "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders," highlighting pages that include diagnostic criteria for "narcissistic personality disorder" and "antisocial personality disorder." Kellyanne told reporters that she does not share George's concerns. (CNN / Washington Post)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/18/politics/george-conway-kellyanne-trump/index.html

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#274664: Mar 18th 2019 at 10:05:58 PM

instead of showing some humanity

Which, irony of ironies, is how you actually make yourself look good in such a situation.

Showing some human decency makes people like you more. Shocking, that.

[up][up]Not "rebirth", more of a "reemergence": all those Neo-Nazis were already there, they didn't all pop into existence when Trump got elected.

US society has always been this ugly, is the unfortunaye truth.

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#274665: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:26:23 AM

I got a question. Out of all the high profile Democratic Candidates, which of them do you think that TRUMP thinks he has the best chance of beating? Rank 'em if you could, just so we get a bit more debate. The reason I ask is that he is once again going to be doing something largely unprecedented (I think) for 2020. Most incumbents have stayed out of the challenging party's primary. There is no way that Trump will do likewise - if just to get the attention he craves. He's going to fear and thus attack some candidates more than others - who are they going to be, whereas who is going to get off lightly because he thinks he can beat them?

(Trump liveblogging the Democrat Debates could be unintentionally hilarious to be fair)

I'd rank it the following way:

  1. Warren the easiest (Pocahontas has stuck, unfortunately and Warren has not handled it very deftly)
  2. Sanders (Probably only because he "knows" Bernie from 2016)
  3. Gillibrand (NY Female politician - we've already seen how disgusting he can be here)
  4. Biden (Sees him as his main "rival" I guess)
  5. Booker Klobacher (I don't think he really has an opinion on them)
  6. O'Rouke (He's got under Trump's skin somehow - probably a good looking white guy threatens Trump on that basis alone)
  7. Harris (Former Attorney General vibe is going to be intimidating to Trump I would think)

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#274666: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:28:33 AM

Trump thinks he can beat all of them because in his world everyone in the country loves him.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
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A procrastination in of itself
#274667: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:06:22 AM

I think he fears Biden the most, but I’m dont think his assessment can tell us anything other than how he will act.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#274668: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:18:54 AM

We know Trump's afraid of Biden and he seems to be lashing out around Beto

...I think the candidates he's most worried about are actually the ones that'd do the worst against him, though? Which would suggest that people should vote for Warren in the primaries

Edited by Hylarn on Mar 19th 2019 at 5:19:11 AM

golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#274669: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:31:51 AM

Warren did a Town Hall last night where she walked back on Medicare for All soooo that's great.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#274670: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:04:28 AM

She clarified she's open to multiple paths to universal coverage. That's not quite the same thing as walking back on Medicare for All entirely.

I'm no Warren supporter — I've probably been the most vocal in my disdain for her on this forum — but saying she's "walking back" on it seems a tad unfair.

Edited by M84 on Mar 19th 2019 at 9:05:20 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#274671: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:29:35 AM

I think he fears Biden the most, but I’m dont think his assessment can tell us anything other than how he will act.
Nah, he calls Biden a "low I.Q. individual".

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#274672: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:31:28 AM

[up][up] Media really loves taking nuanced arguments and reducing them to pithy sound bites that play well for audiences but misrepresent the facts. This, sadly, occurs across the spectrum. Some of my favorite shows have done it.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 19th 2019 at 9:31:55 AM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#274673: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:37:28 AM

[up][up] Trump insulting someone doesn’t mean he doesn’t fear them, if anything I’d say it indicates that he does fear them. Which kinda explains a lot about Trump, he’s afraid of everything, thus why he insulting everything and everyone.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#274674: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:59:42 AM

We had this same argument in 2016. Bernie likes Medicare-for-All, and so Medicare-for-All gets cast among Bernie's fans as the one true path to universal healthcare, bar none. Either you 100% support Medicare-for-All or you want poor people to die from preventable illnesses.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 19th 2019 at 8:00:09 AM

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Would that it were so simple.
#274675: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:23:20 AM

Calling for Medicare-For-All right now, right this instant, no matter what, is like wanting a quarterback to loft a Hail Mary pass on every drive and then getting angry when he's doing three or four running and pass plays a down and still getting the touchdown. What Sen. Warren said was that there was more than one way to skin a cat, not that the ultimate goal had somehow changed.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:34:20 AM

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