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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Looking at the way Mc Connell acts I sometimes get the impression they might be aware of it, they just don't care and are completely shameless.
See, I had the same impression about Evil Turtle. Remember, they did turn the 115th Senate as an one party thing then upon losing the House majority demanded bipartisanship
. Or how he was all critical about Obamacare being supposedly secretively written then wrote up a new bill in 2017 without any debate
.
By the by, regarding last page's topic apparently the House voted on such a voting age change. 1 Republican and 125 Democrats in favour, 108 Democrats against and 197 Republicans against and 2 Democrats present
.
Edited by speedyboris on Mar 11th 2019 at 8:09:59 AM
I'm on the fence re: the voting age thing. There isn't a really tangible difference between 16 and 18, and I know I didn't change much between those two ages, but there is value in letting Teens Are Monsters tendencies burn out of a person's personality before they ever set foot in a ballot box. For every teen that volunteers in Re. Pressley's campaign, there's five or six bullying a classmate to the brink of suicide. I'm not sure how much I'd trust a sixteen year old to cast a well-thought ballot if they had just stuffed a peer's head into a toilet bowl that day. I think there's an inherent sampling bias in the Pro- argument in that these Reps are seeing their young volunteers and thinking, "All sixteen year olds should vote!" What they want is for their young volunteers to vote.
On the other hand, our elderly are probably the most idiotic voters on the planet and we structure our entire election system to prioritize them, so maybe this is exactly the shot in the arm our democracy needs.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I remember what I was like at age 16. I can honestly say it's a good thing I wasn't able to vote.
But who knows...maybe today's youth are more politically savvy.
It's worth noting that there are other countries that have a voting age of 16: Ecuador, Cuba, Austria, Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua...
...I'm not sure if that's a case for or against the idea tbh.
Disgusted, but not surprisedNot sure if this was mentioned yet, but Pete Buttigieg
is also running for president (D). He had a town hall on CNN last night- I didn't have the sound on but some of the questions asked included how he would protect LBGTQ rights (he is openly gay himself) and what he means about guaranteed income. And here are some of his stances.
Edited by speedyboris on Mar 11th 2019 at 8:58:28 AM
There's a much stronger case for it in the UK, where you can start working and paying takes at 16 - making it a literal case of "taxation without representation" but I just looked it up and it seems you only start paying tax at 18 in the States. A lot of things seem to have a higher age requirement in the States by the looks of it...
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."The stranger thing is how often they actually say it, but apparently don't realize how anti-democratic that sentiment actually is.
On some level, they do realize it, hence why they're often the ones who spread the whole "the US is a REPUBLIC, not a DEMOCRACY" nonsense. Because otherwise, their opposition to democracy becomes much less presentable.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI talk to people who try to justify the "rural Americans get more votes than urban Americans" thing by claiming that without it, they'd get no say in government. Then I ask them to explain how a democracy can function if some people have more say than others, and they are unable to answer coherently.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I remember seeing am image somewhere arguing against the 'California get 2 Senators for 39M people while Wyoming gets the same amount for 570k people' by responding along the lines of 'yeah, well, Texas gets 2 for 28M people while Vermont gets the same for 620k' - as if pointing out that it's unfair BOTH ways somehow made it ok.
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."Part of me thinks that the Senator allocation was done partially to defend slavery, but I'm not sure if I'm misremembering or conflating something else in my mind.
Edit: Had a quick look on Quora for an answer
hoooo boy, the wingnuts are out in force over there.
"The Republic isn't 'fair' so get that thought out of your mind."
"It's not a democracy, it's a constitutional Republic" - the Stephen Crowder school of logic.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Mar 11th 2019 at 3:57:14 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."Trump proposes $4.7 trillion budget with domestic cuts, $8.6 billion in new funding for border wall
“Trump’s “Budget for a Better America” also includes dozens of spending cuts and policy overhauls that frame the early stages of the debate for the 2020 election. For example, Trump for the first time calls for cutting $845 billion from Medicare, the popular health care program for the elderly that in the past he had largely said he would protect.
His budget would also propose a major overhaul of Medicaid, the health care program for low-income Americans run jointly with states, by turning more power over to states. This would save $241 billion over 10 years.
Other agencies, particularly the Environmental Protection Agency, State Department, Transportation Department, and Interior Department, would see their budgets severely reduced.
[...]
More broadly, Tump’s budget would impose mandatory work-requirements for millions of people who receive welfare assistance while dramatically increasing the defense budget to $750 billion next year, a 5 percent increase from 2019.“
