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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
People like a lot of toxic things, so that is not really an argument.
Regardless, though. Marriage is not just a personal choice. Is an important legal contract with a ton on implications and benefits. Sure, you can say that some people should "know it is not for them", but then you are barring them from these things, which sucks. And if they want in on those benefits, then they will be in some way buying into the whole concept of marriage, even though "it is not for them", which is toxic.
Like, let's go back to the original topic. Let's say a couple of 18 years old are already independent, working and living together. For them, it is good to be married as it gives them access to a lot benefits, taxes perks, simplified finances, etc. But they are also really young and might not actually want to be together forever. Hell, one might find out to be gay or something, pretty much invalidating their previous relationship. Still, they want v to marry and, thus, will go along with the whole "together e8ver after" even though it might end up being a real bad idea.
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Fair enough. I will drop it. I won't be replying to the subject anymore.
Edited by Heatth on Mar 2nd 2019 at 8:59:47 AM
So going back to that Republican belief that safety nets are a bad thing, I had this particular video of Extra Credits pop up regarding the Irish Potato Famine.
The English PM that worsened it by reducing aid - Sir Charles Trevelyan - studied under economist Thomas Malthus, who theorized that starvation from population outstripping resources
was a net positive (rather, a "natural and proper correction"). Trevelyan also believed fully in the Prosperity Gospel - that poverty was a sign of moral failure, rather than a societal one.
Edited by ironballs16 on Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:21:17 AM
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"The idea that one must give more, in the form of taxes, and otherwise, the more one has to give, is the bedrock of a humanitarian society, and anathema to a significant number of those who, under that system, would be expected to give more than they are comfortable with.
Edited by DeMarquis on Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:39:38 AM
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.That's just the worst kind of slippery slope argument. They're so entrenched in their paranoia bunker that their reaction to anything vaguely progressive is IF YOU GIVE THEM AN INCH THEY'LL TAKE A MILE and so they furiously defend the status quo down to the last millimeter.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Mar 2nd 2019 at 1:26:31 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."It doesn't need to also be stated that the Famine crystalized a firm belief that the British were their enemies.
Who could possibly have seen that coming?
Oh right, the people who felt a reduced Irish population would be more managable.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.It's just inconsistent. And once you start raising the marriage threshold, maybe deciding people shouldn't drive by that point, etc... you wind up giving people all the responsibilities of adulthood (taxation, jobs, full responsibility for criminal acts, etc.)... and none of the privileges reserved for adults. Which seems, to me, to be almost backwards to common sense.
And no, I don't think we have a marriage thread. Would someone like to make one?
Edited by RainehDaze on Mar 2nd 2019 at 4:48:20 PM
Republican Sen. Rand Paul says he will vote for measure blocking Trump’s emergency declaration, paving way for passage – Paul becomes the fourth Senate Republican to announce support for the disapproval resolution.
Lawmakers exploring possible pardon talks involving Michael Cohen The topic came up in closed-door testimony Thursday, though the details are unclear.
Cohen has said publicly he never asked for — and would not accept — a pardon from Trump. But people familiar with the matter said his knowledge on the topic seems to extend beyond that statement.
Privately, lawmakers on the House and Senate intelligence committees pressed Cohen this week on whether he had had any discussions about a possible pardon, and if so, when and with whom those conversations took place, the people said. The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because the testimony was not public.
It was not immediately clear what, if anything, Cohen told lawmakers to pique their interest. Depending on the details, such pardon talks could be incendiary, suggesting an effort to dissuade Cohen from cooperating with law enforcement. Cohen is to return to the House Intelligence Committee on Wednesday.
Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 3rd 2019 at 3:15:40 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Desk
It amuses me to no end that they have desk full of sweets in the senate,also the two parties have their own candy desks
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverThe United States Congress is just like any other workplace, when you get down to it. We like to think that these people are on a level above us and are thus beyond such humanizing qualities as "Want to munch a piece of candy". But they're not.
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While people should be staying in unhealthy relationships just because they'll feel like failures if they end it, a lot of people like the idea of marriage being for the rest of their lives.
Clearly a lot of people can't live up to that, but that doesn't make the idea, in itself toxic. It just means people should know when it is or isn't for them.