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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#273101: Feb 28th 2019 at 9:50:54 AM

But they're still part of the "legal profession" in a broader sense.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#273102: Feb 28th 2019 at 9:57:39 AM

Absolutely. Paralegals are incredibly important and essential; they do a lot of the nuts and bolts of litigation. They just aren’t considered to “practice law” and aren’t a part of the bar.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#273103: Feb 28th 2019 at 10:45:50 AM

BTW, is there a summarized list of all the things that Cohen's hearing has either confirmed or revealed?

This may help, ~Marq FJA

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/02/27/day-769/

Lists key moments and links back to corresponding past stories


Also:

GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again

Roy Moore, a conservative lightning rod who cost the Republican Party a Senate seat in deep-red Alabama, is signaling fresh interest in mounting another campaign in 2020, sparking alarm on the right that Democratic Sen. Doug Jones could be gifted another unlikely victory

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/gop-nightmare-as-alabamas-roy-moore-signals-he-might-run-again

Matt Gaetz Under Investigation by Florida State Bar Over Michael Cohen Threat – The Florida congressman tells The Daily Beast he is unaware of the inquiry.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matt-gaetz-under-investigation-by-florida-state-bar-over-michael-cohen-threat

Group running robocalls impersonating Trump's campaign has already raised more than $100,000 – The call sounds like it is coming from President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/kfile-investigation-robocalls/index.html

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 28th 2019 at 11:54:18 AM

Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#273104: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:04:01 AM

What's the damage control Trump's working on for Cohen's testimony? Has the WH released a statement? I hope he doesn't squeeze out of this like a possum covered in peanut oil.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#273105: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:07:19 AM

how is doug jones doing so far?. is doing fine so far?.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#273106: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:08:52 AM

It will probably be the same old "Fake News" broken record playing.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#273107: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:11:33 AM

Couldn't the Alabama GOP just counter Moore by getting an archconservative who isn't a serial rapist to run, and use memories of Moore's defeat to bury him in the primary?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#273108: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:13:24 AM

They can, and the article notes Moore's running is the only thing they would make them even have a primary, it gives notes concerns he could win anyway.

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A procrastination in of itself
#273109: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:13:37 AM

Thing is they’d need someone who excites the Alabama GOP primary voters as much as Moore does, that’s not an easy person to find.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#273110: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:14:13 AM

Their just calling Cohen a "lying liar who lies" and I'm honestly not sure if that isn't an exact quote.

Interestingly though, Trump said that Cohen didn't lie about one thing: That Cohen said there was no collusion with Russia.

Except Cohen didn't say that. So once again Trump is living in his own reality.

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#273111: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:22:53 AM

[up]It's not an exact quote. That quote would be slightly more dignified. This is the exact quote.

During his questioning of President Trump’s former personal lawyer and self-admitted “fixer,” US Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) ripped into Cohen’s credibility, telling him point-blank: “You’re a pathological liar. You don’t know truth from falsehood.”

Cohen shot back, “Sir, I’m sorry. Are you talking about me or the president?”

The sarcastic response led Gosar to fume, “This is my time,” and he angrily instructed Cohen, “When I ask a question, I’ll ask for an answer.”

Gosar wrapped up his questions by telling Cohen: “Look at the old adage our moms taught us: ‘Liar, liar, pants on fire.'”

“No one should ever look at you and expect the truth,” he said.

“This is a really sad state.”

At one point, a large poster with the words “LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!” against a background of red flames — and a black-and-white photo of a hapless-looking Cohen — was set up on an easel behind the rows of Republican lawmakers.

Cohen later called the sign “really unbecoming of Congress.”

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#273112: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:24:43 AM

In other news, the United Methodist Church has decided not to officiate same-sex weddings and bar homosexual clergy members. Suffice to say, the traditionalists are pleased (and as noted in the article, ~30% of the organizations methods are African, and a lot of African nations have criminalized homosexuality), and the reformists are thinking this might start yet another church.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#273113: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:28:17 AM

Cohen later called the sign “really unbecoming of Congress.

Proof positive that the notion that Cohen lies about everything is, itself, a lie.

Angry gets shit done.
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#273114: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:28:43 AM

I’m a United Methodist. Very sad but not surprised.

I’d like to note that the homophobia of the African congregations is heavily influenced by white American preachers spreading homophobia.

The Russian delegation was also very homophobic; American congregations voted 2/3 to support welcoming LGBT people.

Edited by wisewillow on Feb 28th 2019 at 2:29:37 PM

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#273115: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:47:51 AM

It wasn't even about welcoming LGBT people, the rejected plan was to allow each congregation to choose whether or not to officiate same-sex marriages. So it's a case of the delgates imposing their bigotry on its tolerant members.

Life is unfair...
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#273116: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:48:42 AM

The American moderates/progressives should go their own way.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#273117: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:50:23 AM

Well, for those that ask, the pushback appears to be this:

Republican congressmen report Cohen for perjury

Jim Jordan, the Republican ranking member of the House oversight committee, and Mark Meadows, have reported Michael Cohen to the Department of Justice, alleging that the former Trump aide committed perjury during his hearing yesterday.

In a public letter to new Trump-appointed attorney general William Burr, Jordan and Meadows said Cohen had made “numerous willfully (sic) and intentionally false statements of material fact” during the hearing.

The pair said:

"Mr Cohen’s testimony before the Committee on Oversight and Reform on February 27 2019 was a spectacular and brazen attempt to knowing (sic) and willfully (sic) testify falsely and fictitiously to numerous material facts."

Jordan and Meadows said Cohen had lied when he said in the hearing: “I never defrauded any bank.”

They claim that statement is false as Cohen had “pleaded guilty to five counts of income tax evasion [and] one count of making false statements to a banking institution”.

They also said that Cohen was lying when he told the committee he did not seek employment in the Trump White House.

Jordan and Meadows cited court filings made by the US attorney’s office for the southern district of New York, which said Cohen had “privately told friends and colleagues, including in seized text messages, that he expected to be given a prominent role and title in the new administration”.

The response from Cohen's lawyer is here:

"Cohen testified truthfully," attorney says

Lanny J. Davis, attorney for Michael Cohen, has issued a statement in response to Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows accusing Cohen of committing perjury during his testimony yesterday. Davis said:

"Mr Cohen testified truthfully before the House Oversight Committee. He took full responsibility for his guilty pleas. He also backed up much of his testimony with documents. It may not be surprising that two pro-Trump Committee members known have a baseless criminal referral. In my opinion, it is a sad misuse of the criminal justice system with the aura of pure partisanship."

A key tactic of Republicans on the House committee yesterday was to discredit Cohen and lessen the impact of his testimony.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Feb 28th 2019 at 7:52:06 PM

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#273118: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:52:58 AM

So we've got extensive documentation and undeniable evidence and Republicans are still going to do everything they can to deny it.

Oh really when?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#273119: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:03:20 PM

House Oversight seeks interviews with Trump’s kids after Cohen testimony – “They have a good chance of hearing from us," Cummings says.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/28/house-oversight-trump-cohen-testimony-1196594

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i'm tired, my friend
#273120: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:21:35 PM

[up][up]In other words, typical right-wing behavior.

i'm tired, my friend
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#273121: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:35:41 PM

Related to this, I've noticed that every time the point is brought up that if Obama pulled even a fraction of the stuff that Trump does, Republicans would be screaming bloody murder, they never give a satisfactory answer as to why it's okay when Trump does it. They quickly change the subject.

"Uh, well, uh, hey look, a cloud shaped like a fidget spinner!"

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#273122: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:39:21 PM

You can't give what you don't have.

i'm tired, my friend
Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#273123: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:41:51 PM

As someone who was once a republican, the problems that they have really pain me. Can we get a party with all of the good stuff of the two parties and none of the bad stuff? The closest I've been able to find is the Libertarian, but well they have bad stuff too. /wishfulThinking

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#273124: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:44:31 PM

There's a cruel irony in the fact that, by all rights, the Libertarian ideology should be against all forms of bigotry, but instead is a common gateway for alt-right nuttery.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#273125: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:47:22 PM

The general small government and deregulation stances have also struck me as highly naive and dependent on the better natures of people who don't generally have them.


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