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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#272926: Feb 26th 2019 at 4:57:52 PM

Granted, if a few false hate crime accusations is enough to make you feel hate crimes don't exist you were already a bit of a bigot.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#272927: Feb 26th 2019 at 4:59:41 PM

A lesson I learned from being The Fundamentalist and growing up in a very white society....bigots will use any excuse to avoid any responsibility for racism or to try to improve things.

They don't care about any rights but their own.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#272928: Feb 26th 2019 at 5:04:01 PM

@Hail Muffins: Keep in mind I'm giving an explanation, rather than an excuse per se.

Leviticus 19:34
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#272929: Feb 26th 2019 at 5:07:34 PM

The House vote against Trump's BS emergency failed to get 2/3rds support. Every Democrat and 13 Republicans voted for it, resulting in a 245-182 margin.

I guess that this takes the pressure off of Mitch, to some extent? There's no real risk of a veto override anymore.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#272931: Feb 26th 2019 at 5:30:28 PM

/does the math

Huh. That actually wasn't far from a veto-proof majority; they only needed seven more GOP defectors.

Which is good to know in general- in order to override a veto, they need 20 GOP defectors in each chamber.

Edited by Gilphon on Feb 26th 2019 at 8:31:32 AM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#272932: Feb 26th 2019 at 6:48:55 PM

NVM

Edited by MarqFJA on Feb 26th 2019 at 5:52:54 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#272933: Feb 26th 2019 at 6:50:36 PM

245/(245+182) ~= 0.57.

57% of the House voted to stop the non-emergency.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#272934: Feb 26th 2019 at 6:52:42 PM

... I am a failure at basic arithematic, proceed to laugh at me.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#272935: Feb 26th 2019 at 6:55:01 PM

Nah, you got the maths right for a ratio. It's just that supermajorities aren't determined by vote ratios but by percentage of voters.

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#272936: Feb 26th 2019 at 6:56:40 PM

And since we're on the subject, it would actually take 50+ GOP defections in the House, not 20 as Gilphon suggested.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Feb 26th 2019 at 6:57:01 AM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#272937: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:00:29 PM

[up][up] That's exactly it: I picked a completely wrong formula for the problem presented to me, one that I should've immediately recognized as such, which qualifies as a failure of basic arithmetic principles.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#272938: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:02:00 PM

You're better than me, I have no bloody clue what [up][up][up] is even talking about.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#272939: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:09:14 PM

The conclusion is still there (not that it wasn't obvious even before that): the GOP doesn't give a shit about the rule of law or separation of powers. And since they are hypocrites to the last man, woman and Russian bot; they'll still scream if a Democratic POTUS invokes precedent when trying to address climate change or gun violence.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#272940: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:13:59 PM

The Supreme Court erased an appeals court ruling on protections against pay discrimination under the Equal Wage Act; says federal judges can't vote if they're dead

Judge Stephen Reinhardt, of the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, was listed as the author of a majority opinion in April 2018 that expanded protections against wage discrimination under the Equal Pay Act.

The problem with the opinion, the Supreme Court said, was that it was issued 11 days after Reinhardt, an appointee of President Jimmy Carter, had passed away.

The Supreme Court, in an unsigned opinion with no noted dissents, wrote that the 9th Circuit “effectively allowed a deceased judge to exercise the judicial power of the United States after his death.”

“But federal judges are appointed for life, not for eternity,” according to the justices, who ordered that the lower courts reconsider the issue.

...

The 9th Circuit’s opinion would have established a precedent in the nation’s largest federal circuit barring the use of an employee’s prior salary to justify pay discrimination between men and women.

Reinhardt, before his passing, wrote that “to allow employers to capitalize on the persistence of the wage gap and perpetuate that gap ad infinitum — would be contrary to the text and history of the Equal Pay Act, and would vitiate the very purpose for which the Act stands.”

The SC's argument is that judges may change their vote at any time up until the moment the decision is released. Therefore, Judge Reinhardt's vote cannot be counted.

In other news Biden seems prepared to announce his campaign at any moment.

“One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors,” he said, using the quote from the Greek philosopher to take a shot at President Trump.

...

While insisting that no final decision had been made, he said that one of his primary concerns was out of the way.

After several family conversations, he said, “there’s a consensus I should, they want me to run” for president.

Look, Joe, I'll vote for you if there somehow ends up being no better choice, but please just stick to the memes.

Edited by TheAirman on Feb 26th 2019 at 9:14:24 AM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#272941: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:23:40 PM

Torn between Biden's flaws as a candidate and a person...and the fact that he'd savage Trump in the debates.

But seriously, I hope he loses.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#272942: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:24:10 PM

It's annoying, but it makes sense.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#272943: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:25:09 PM

Is Biden even that popular?

i'm tired, my friend
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#272944: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:30:29 PM

[up][up] Biden or the Supreme Court ruling?

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#272945: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:40:44 PM

The Supreme Court ruling. If judges are able to change their rulings up until the literal final moment, then if they die you can't confirm that the ruling is what the judge intended. You essentially rule in stand of the dead guy.

Plus what this practically does is just return it to lower courts to rule again.

Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#272946: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:19:31 PM

Democrats voting against Trump's expansion of executive power would carry more weight if I thought that they would still vote against it if the shoe was on the other foot.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#272947: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:25:52 PM

[up]x4 Biden, if he were to run, would be a very far front runner, with only Sanders being anywhere close to him, according to the majority of Polls taken since October 2018.

If we end up with Biden, I'll bite my tongue and vote for him, but at this point, Sanders would be more appealing then Biden.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#272948: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:26:09 PM

That would require a Democrat president to first decide to declare a state of emergency after Congress blocked them.

Given that despite all his problems with a hostile congress for most of his time in power, I don't think Dems are likely to do that.

Ingonyama Since: Jan, 2001
#272949: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:27:45 PM

Re: Andrew Miller's appeal: About time that got shot down! Do you suppose he's going to try and take it to the Supreme Court now? Either way, the fact he's fought this so much suggests he's got a lot to hide...and considering his connection to Stone, who in turn may be critical to tying together the links proving the conspiracy between Russia and 45's campaign, something big may come out there soon.

Re: Jacob Wohl: Remember how he tried to claim he had a legitimate case of a woman who had been sexually assaulted by Mueller? Well, now we know for sure that was a lie.

But when reached by USA TODAY, 34-year-old Carolyne Cass of Los Angeles said Wohl, whom she met on Craigslist, had tricked her by pretending to be an investigator named Matthew Cohen who was trained by Israeli intelligence forces and agreed to help her with “unscrupulous characters ripping me off.”

Cass said she paid the man she knew as Cohen $2,000, for which he did no work but instead offered her the prospect of employment at his intelligence agency and had her speak on the phone to people whose identities she now believes Wohl fabricated.

Cass said it ultimately became clear that Cohen and his associates, imaginary or otherwise, “needed a credible female to put on the line” for false allegations about Mueller. “They made it up,” Cass said of the document accusing Mueller, which was passed around at the news conference. “They wrote it and docu-signed it.”

She claimed Cohen tried to get her to speak at the news conference but she “escaped” and learned only as the scheme exploded that Cohen was in fact Wohl. “He completely lied to me,” Cass said.

Wohl had as recently as this month referred to Cass while speaking in detail about the Mueller episode. But when asked about Cass’s version of events, Wohl said he could not speak further because he had signed a non-disclosure agreement with her and “can’t violate any confidences.” Cass said no such agreement existed.

That article also outlines a bunch of other awful stuff he's done, like trying to start a birther conspiracy for Kamala Harris, claiming Ilhan Omar married her brother (to obtain a visa, I think), accusing the pipe bomber of being a False Flag Operation, and more.

Basically, while as usual they waited far too long to do anything, it's great Twitter finally banned him. And I hope the FBI does still investigate him for the Mueller lies.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#272950: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:29:37 PM

God, I do NOT want Biden. Absolutely not. No goddamn way. He was awful to Anita Hill, backed a lot of mass incarceration and pro-corporate bills, constantly gets too touchy with women he meets, and loves scolding young people for daring to complain about the status quo of our screwed up economy and continuing systemic racism and sexism. And don’t forget that eulogy for Strom Thurmond, who Biden didn’t think was racist.


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