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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#271776: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:39:59 AM

[up]In this case, it's both.

Disgusted, but not surprised
golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#271777: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:46:34 AM

Biden is just casually conservative. This shouldn't come as a surprise, the dude just recently went off on millennials for complaining too much about civil rights issues and climate change. He's maybe the absolute worst pick for a Democratic nominee that's most likely gonna be running, along with Kamala Harris.

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#271778: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:48:25 AM

I wouldn't say Harris is in Biden's league. Harris at least doesn't have a Me Too! scandal waiting to happen.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#271779: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:48:34 AM

Perfect example of Old Guard, to be replaced by a New Guard.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#271780: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:49:20 AM

The idea that Harris is worse than Gabbard is fucking laughable.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#271781: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:50:27 AM

Kamala Harris is a good pick IMO. As noted here politicians' promises are a fairly reliable guide to their policies whereas their past political records is not. Counterintuitive, I know.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#271782: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:50:31 AM

My first thought is they weren't taking Gabbard seriously as a nominee so they excluded them, but since they didn't specify then yeah wtf?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#271783: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:53:56 AM

Yeah, I'm also curious as to what exactly makes Gabbard better than Harris. And I'm not even a huge Kamala Harris fan.

Edited by M84 on Feb 18th 2019 at 1:54:14 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#271784: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:56:12 AM

Gabbard is awful enough that she's still the bottom of the barrel. If they ran on the Democratic ticket Bloomberg and even Schultz would be better.

[down]That would make sense, given that Gabbard is something of an unknown with single digit polling.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Feb 17th 2019 at 1:59:52 PM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#271785: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:56:36 AM

Golgotha did not mention Gabbard by name, so maybe they didn't factor her in.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#271786: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:10:57 AM

Trump's UN ambassador pick, a former Fox and Friends host, has withdrawn herself from consideration.

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#271787: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:12:45 AM

Biden is just casually conservative. This shouldn't come as a surprise, the dude just recently went off on millennials for complaining too much about civil rights issues and climate change. He's maybe the absolute worst pick for a Democratic nominee that's most likely gonna be running, along with Kamala Harris.

As opposed to Tulsi Gabbard?

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised by this, TBH. After all, she supported Sanders.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#271788: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:13:59 AM

I think Biden is a perfectly solid if uninspiring choice.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#271789: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:19:55 AM

He's sold as water (your chances will evaporate with him)

I was one point sure he would make a good candidate,not anymore

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271790: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:21:28 AM

I have to echo the others, to say that Harris is worse then Bloomberg or Gabbard is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, she has some unfortunate history in regards to criminal justice but come on, have some perspective.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#271791: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:21:38 AM

Let’s be fair, the poster didn’t mention Gabbard. I keep forgetting she exists and is running tbh until someone brings her up and I remember how much she sucks.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#271792: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:22:36 AM

Didn't septimus already note the omission of Gabbard in that comment might not necessarily be a statement that she's any better?

[up] Didn't her campaign fall apart almost immediately?

[down] no, but that's a different point altogether, since Biden, at least, is actively being discussed.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 17th 2019 at 11:23:45 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271793: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:23:01 AM

Let’s be fair, the poster didn’t mention Gabbard. I keep forgetting she exists and is running tbh until someone brings her up and I remember how much she sucks.

Yeah, that's a fair point.

But still, with Bloomberg running and how terrible Biden is I don't think it's really proportionate to list Harris with them.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 17th 2019 at 1:23:19 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#271794: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:25:09 AM

I think it should be pointed out it's being taken for granted that Biden is going to run. It seems like he probably is, but that still hasn't been made definitive yet.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#271795: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:48:55 AM

I'm more of the question what does Harris bring to the table?

I approve of her suggestions for criminal justice reform but that's tainted by the fact they're a complete 180 on her previous policies.

Does she have something else that she's bringing to the table suggestion wise that puts her above Warren (who is all about the corporate reform and ending corporate personage)?

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#271796: Feb 17th 2019 at 10:59:18 AM

Because this totally sounds like a National Emergency:

Democrats in the Senate are still slow walking hundreds of highly qualified people wanting to come into government. Never been such an abuse in our country’s history. Mitch should not let Senate go home until all are approved. We need our Ambassadors and all others NOW!

52% Approval Rating, 93% in Republican Party ( a record )! Pretty amazing considering that 93% (also) of my press is REALLY BAD. The “people” are SMART!

Nothing funny about tired Saturday Night Live on Fake News NBC! Question is, how do the Networks get away with these total Republican hit jobs without retribution? Likewise for many other shows? Very unfair and should be looked into. This is the real Collusion!

Amusingly, SNL’s ratings only go up, whenever Individual One tweets something negative about them.

And here’s the SNL sketch he was referring to:

Edited by megaeliz on Feb 17th 2019 at 2:09:06 PM

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#271797: Feb 17th 2019 at 11:26:22 AM

Is Trump seriously trying to pull a Shame If Something Happened on US allies?
Sure sounds like it. Sounds like a perfectly Trumpish move, too.
We can't really demand of e.g. the North Africans to take back their criminal citizens, while we refuse to do the same. And as much as one might wish to see them charged in the country in which they comitted their crimes, it is very unlikely that they'd get a trial by Western standards
Aside from Trump, I doubt the rest of the government would have a problem bringing any Americans who joined ISIS back to be punished for their terrorist activities. But we already tried imprisoning every terrorist we found, and the result was Gitmo, and trading prisoners to countries like, uh, Syria.
I was already really anti-Biden but good god, his eulogy of Strom Thurmond is disgraceful.
How long ago was that? Just curious, because I agree it does not look good.
anyone noticing more talk of unions recently?
Aside from the one I joined, no.
I think Biden is a perfectly solid if uninspiring choice.
Has Biden actually announced he's running? Because I thought he hadn't officially launched a campaign.
52% Approval Rating,
*looks at 538* Funny, 52% is his disapproval rating. Well, we already knew that Trump was bad with numbers.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#271798: Feb 17th 2019 at 11:28:39 AM

Honestly, I did forget about Gabbard, but that might just be because I don't consider her a serious candidate. Except for one aspect of her policies, she's even more conservative than Biden, and it's just weird that she would try to run for the Democrat ticket than a third party ticket.

I do stand by saying that Harris is up there with Biden as one of the worst possible candidates, considering she is the prosecutor who put families in debt for not being able to send their kids to school. She's heartless.

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271799: Feb 17th 2019 at 11:32:01 AM

I do stand by saying that Harris is up there with Biden as one of the worst possible candidates, considering she is the prosecutor who put families in debt for not being able to send their kids to school. She's heartless.

May you please provide a source?

I was aware of her truancy program but I don't remember it actually resulting in legal consequences for anyone.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 17th 2019 at 2:33:27 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#271800: Feb 17th 2019 at 11:34:40 AM

Literally in the video posted on Twitter where she talked about it, she made jokes about it. Here's a version of the video on Youtube.

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"

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