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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Apparently, the intended use for the money (most likely emergency funds for CA and PR) did not sound important to him.
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I'm sure that's going to make the Pentagon very fond of Trump. -_-
Construction would be immediately ceased, but the people's whose homes would be stolen for it probably won't be comforted by that fact.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:14:01 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI believe there's a case of a sanctuary (butterfly?) suing because the land will be taken for the intended wall. Apparently recently dismissed, though
Indeed.
I previously thought they were definitely going to oppose it but considering that Mc Connel and Graham have come out in favor of it I think I was being overly generous, Republicans are too cowardly and myopic to certainly oppose this.
Nothing is certain.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI mean, you'd think that a few of them would logic it out and see that it's in their own best interest to stop the precedent that would give a future Dem President the justification to pull this trick to just straight up ramp up gun control or pass socialised medicine or something...
I mean, if I was a Republican Senator and strongly believed in all the idiotic, evil and harmful things GO Ps believe, I think I still wouldn't want to declare a state of emergency to get this through for the above reason. What if President Bernie uses a state of emergency to take away all our guns AND give us socialised medicine *spit* That Would Be Awful.
Does it have to be 2/3s in both houses?
Edited by GoldenKaos on Feb 15th 2019 at 4:36:20 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."I mean, if I was a Republican Senator and strongly believed in all the idiotic, evil and harmful things GO Ps believe, I think I still wouldn't want to declare a state of emergency to get this through for the above reason. What if President Bernie uses a state of emergency to take away all our guns AND give us socialised medicine *spit* That Would Be Awful.
There are
, it's just that many if not more Republicans don't oppose it.
Because they're cowardly and shortsighted morons who are more afraid of the insane far-right media and base then they are of a Democratic President having that power. We'll see whether that changes or not.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:40:49 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI can’t believe that I actually agree with Anne Colter, of all people.
Edited by megaeliz on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:42:04 AM
I mean, her opposition to it seems to be that signing this will ensure the wall won't get built, and that it's just for the benefit of his voters, rather than a rational opposition to it.
But yeah, we agree it's just for his voters I guess. And his ego.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Feb 15th 2019 at 4:52:04 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."

Yup. And here we go.
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."