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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#271476: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:09:13 AM

Yup. And here we go.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#271477: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:10:24 AM

Apparently, the intended use for the money (most likely emergency funds for CA and PR) did not sound important to him.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#271478: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:13:06 AM

Considering it would take years to build it (not to mention take months just to gather material and organise) and we're already in his third year, what happens to the wall if he's voted out in 2020?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271479: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:13:10 AM

[up][up]I'm sure that's going to make the Pentagon very fond of Trump. -_-

[up]Construction would be immediately ceased, but the people's whose homes would be stolen for it probably won't be comforted by that fact.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:14:01 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#271480: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:13:55 AM

The only "emergency" is that Trump didn't get his way for once in his life. I guess to someone like him who has been spoon-fed everything and been shielded from consequences his entire life, it would seem like an emergency.

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#271481: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:15:41 AM

[up]CONGRESS: Sorry, but you're not getting that wall.

TRUMP: WAAAAAAAAH! WAAAAAAAAAH! WAAAAAAAAH!

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#271482: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:15:55 AM

His wall is basically going to be the American version of those abandoned half-finished projects in China. It won't get finished.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#271483: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:16:59 AM

I believe there's a case of a sanctuary (butterfly?) suing because the land will be taken for the intended wall. Apparently recently dismissed, though

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#271484: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:24:34 AM

Can't other people sue him over this?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#271485: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:25:04 AM

Any chance that Pelosi would succeed if she tried to get Congress to vote to end the Emergency? Or would it mostly serve to put Republicans on the spot?

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 15th 2019 at 9:25:28 AM

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#271486: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:26:19 AM

Depends on the Republican Senators, doesn't it. They're going to have to pick a side and either back the President now or vote against a future Dem President pulling this trick.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271487: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:29:02 AM

Depends on the Republican Senators, doesn't it. They're going to have to pick a side and either back the President now or vote against a future Dem President pulling this trick.

Indeed.

I previously thought they were definitely going to oppose it but considering that Mc Connel and Graham have come out in favor of it I think I was being overly generous, Republicans are too cowardly and myopic to certainly oppose this.

Nothing is certain.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#271488: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:30:03 AM

Don't expect any better from the GOP and you won't be disappointed. Or in other words...<points at sig>

Edited by M84 on Feb 16th 2019 at 12:30:23 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#271489: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:30:43 AM

Not to mention that if there is disapproval, he could veto - unless it's veto-proof by passing with 2/3rds the votes.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#271490: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:35:34 AM

I mean, you'd think that a few of them would logic it out and see that it's in their own best interest to stop the precedent that would give a future Dem President the justification to pull this trick to just straight up ramp up gun control or pass socialised medicine or something...

I mean, if I was a Republican Senator and strongly believed in all the idiotic, evil and harmful things GO Ps believe, I think I still wouldn't want to declare a state of emergency to get this through for the above reason. What if President Bernie uses a state of emergency to take away all our guns AND give us socialised medicine *spit* That Would Be Awful.

[up]Does it have to be 2/3s in both houses?

Edited by GoldenKaos on Feb 15th 2019 at 4:36:20 PM

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271491: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:38:48 AM

I mean, you'd think that a few of them would logic it out and see that it's in their own best interest to stop the precedent that would give a future Dem President the justification to pull this trick to just straight up ramp up gun control or pass socialised medicine or something...

I mean, if I was a Republican Senator and strongly believed in all the idiotic, evil and harmful things GO Ps believe, I think I still wouldn't want to declare a state of emergency to get this through for the above reason. What if President Bernie uses a state of emergency to take away all our guns AND give us socialised medicine *spit* That Would Be Awful.

There are, it's just that many if not more Republicans don't oppose it.

Because they're cowardly and shortsighted morons who are more afraid of the insane far-right media and base then they are of a Democratic President having that power. We'll see whether that changes or not.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:40:49 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#271492: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:39:50 AM

Didn't some states say they would just straight up refuse to let them build the wall in their lands?

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#271493: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:40:26 AM

More concerned with their own skin (read:wallet) and post-politics career in other words rather than the actual political causes they espouse.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#271494: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:40:40 AM

[up][up][up][up]2/3rds in each chamber, making the House an easy pass. If the Senate only barely passes such a measure, it would fail the veto override requirements.

Edited by nombretomado on Feb 15th 2019 at 8:41:13 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#271495: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:40:51 AM

I can’t believe that I actually agree with Anne Colter, of all people.

No, the goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years

Edited by megaeliz on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:42:04 AM

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#271496: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:51:04 AM

[up]Ann Coulter seems super tame these days compared to the garbage in power.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#271497: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:51:24 AM

I mean, her opposition to it seems to be that signing this will ensure the wall won't get built, and that it's just for the benefit of his voters, rather than a rational opposition to it.

But yeah, we agree it's just for his voters I guess. And his ego.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Feb 15th 2019 at 4:52:04 PM

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#271498: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:52:38 AM

[up][up][up]broken clock and all that.

I'm laughing a little at Mcconnel's bluster about putting the Green New Deal up for a vote. No, Mitch, you first.

Edited by Cris_Meyers on Feb 15th 2019 at 10:53:19 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#271499: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:00:51 AM

In a comment that you can bet is going to be cited in lawsuits against this national emergency, Trump admits, "I didn't need to do this, but I'd rather do it much faster."

That should be the first paragraph of every complaint filed this afternoon.

Edited by megaeliz on Feb 15th 2019 at 12:01:39 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#271500: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:12:36 AM

Things have become truly become bizarre when Ann Coulter actually makes sense.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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