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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#271176: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:00:22 PM

[up][up]Then quote it? But the way you posted it, you were making a statement.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#271177: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:01:51 PM

This is why speech marks are important

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#271178: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:03:59 PM

Also, the investigation was conducted by a complete third party - they weren't taking orders from anybody.
The article describes the detective agency as "retained by a law firm on behalf of the diocese and school,"

Third party they may be. Neutral third party they are not.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#271179: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:04:27 PM

I don't know why I'm bothering to engage Friendperson but no.

While I take issue with CNN not raising more of a stink about how the report isn't neutral, the only time they use "third party" is in quoting someone from the Church.

Someone the Church is paying said that there was no proof of racism. Aside from the absence of evidence not being evidence of absence, there's a blatant conflict of interest there. It's not a complete third-party, and CNN didn't make that claim. Don't lie and hide behind the site. You were called out because people read the article.

Edited by Larkmarn on Feb 13th 2019 at 4:16:50 AM

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SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#271180: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:08:18 PM

[up] We have to engage them, because the mods clearly don't care about handling them.

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#271181: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:39:16 PM

[up] Saying the mods don't care doesn't help anything, and makes you look no better as a consequence.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#271182: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:43:13 PM

If he's really that troublesome holler him, assuming you weren't already.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#271183: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:45:10 PM

[up][up]Ridiclious, even if saying that isn't advisable that doesn't make them "no better".

Have some perspective, complaining about disruptive posting is not as bad as posting disruptively.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 13th 2019 at 4:47:32 AM

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#271184: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:46:35 PM

I mean... they don't. That's just true.

Anyhoo to change the subject and avoid getting thumped, a friend sent me this earlier: Massive Emperor Trump Float Presides Over Italian Carnival.

It's Warhammer 40K reference. And as usual when W H40k comes up, it took me distressingly long to figure out whether it's sincere or mocking (it's mocking Trump. Probably).

[down] To clarify, the supposed third-party here is a report from an investigative firm (that the law firm has on retainer). So if an investigation was performed, it was "find out if they can prove anything" not "find out the truth."

Edited by Larkmarn on Feb 13th 2019 at 5:01:29 AM

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#271185: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:46:48 PM

... a law firm hired by the diocese is NOT a neutral third party. Lawyers aren’t allowed to lie, no, but you can do quite a lot to frame your client in the best possible light.

Edited by wisewillow on Feb 13th 2019 at 4:47:04 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#271186: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:49:53 PM

Lawyers are the biggest users of Exact Words in the world, you never believe what one says if there is the slightest chance of their opinion being biased.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#271187: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:51:31 PM

....this that HERESY I'm seeing? *chambers bolt pistol* A insult to our Gllllllllllorius Overlord, the Man-Emperor?

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#271188: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:55:19 PM

[up]x4 It's 40k, what side of the Poe's Law it stays is a question that'll haunt future intellectuals for the rest of eternity.

Edited by HailMuffins on Feb 13th 2019 at 6:55:37 AM

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#271189: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:57:55 PM

That moment when a massive satirical parody looks healthier than the real thing...

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#271190: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:59:27 PM

There are some...members of the shallow end of the 40k fandom who honestly treat Trump like the Emperor. Though those are the ends of the fandom I generally stay away from <.< Those who actually take the setting dead serious.

The irony that they are subscribing to the failed dream turned nightmare of a Well-Intentioned Extremist which turns into everything he didn't want to. Meaning In Universe, these fuckheads are exactly the thing that would drive the Emperor to a screaming tantrum if he woke up.

Edited by 3of4 on Feb 13th 2019 at 11:01:57 AM

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Imca (Veteran)
#271191: Feb 13th 2019 at 2:22:16 PM

if say energy storage technology hits a brick wall and stagnates

IF? It already has, there have been no major improvments to power storage to leave labratory testing in DECADES.

Storage is our bigest weak link in energy technology since there is just no viable way to store large amounts of energy.

The closest we have is filling concrete bunkers with water, and then using it to power hydroelectric systems during high demand, but even that dispite being our best bulk storage option doesn't really store that much in the overall picture of the energy grid.

What is precived as us getting better at storing energy, our electric devices lasting longer on one charge... is actualy an improvments in energy effeciency not storage capacity.

This is why graphene based capacitors were the new hotness for a while, they would have been the first improvement in so long that it was revolutionary.

Energy storage as it is, is some how one of our greatest technological weak points... and if we could solve it this whole thing would be much easier.

Edited by Imca on Feb 13th 2019 at 2:25:34 AM

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#271192: Feb 13th 2019 at 2:56:39 PM

We have hollers and private messages for mod concerns, as well as the Appeal to moderation thread for larger concerns about modding as a whole.

In-thread is not the appropriate venue. Please keep that in mind.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#271193: Feb 13th 2019 at 3:11:05 PM

Storage is the weak link in transforming into alternative forms of energy, although I have seen plans to make it work based on local power production (it relies heavily on nuclear power). However, I have seen some interesting ideas, including Lithium Air Batteries, which apparently could have a similar energy density to gasoline.

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#271194: Feb 13th 2019 at 3:41:01 PM

I’m hoping solid state batteries become a thing.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#271195: Feb 13th 2019 at 4:11:56 PM

"Federal judge rules [Paul Manafort] breached plea deal" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/federal-judge-rules-ex-trump-campaign-chief-breached-plea-deal-idUSKCN1Q232Y

Story seems to still be developing.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 13th 2019 at 5:13:56 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#271196: Feb 13th 2019 at 4:26:46 PM

Plea deal is voided? Barring a pardon, Manafort is going away for life.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#271197: Feb 13th 2019 at 4:30:04 PM

I am reminded of this scene:

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#271198: Feb 13th 2019 at 4:31:02 PM

Does he still have a chance to cop a plea?

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#271199: Feb 13th 2019 at 4:31:58 PM

Given he's proven totally unreliable, I don't know.

Mind you, there's a question whether anything he's testified to against Trump is useful since he's a perjurer.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#271200: Feb 13th 2019 at 5:02:36 PM

Presumably, anything he's said has been checked against other Intel as well.


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