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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#270651: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:03:28 AM

She's also a raging TERF but that's a matter for another thread.

What does that mean?

Edited by LSBK on Feb 9th 2019 at 5:04:16 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#270652: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:06:31 AM

She's a feminist but excludes transgender people for some reason,and in the past she's liked transphobic tweets

Edited by Ultimatum on Feb 9th 2019 at 11:10:46 AM

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270653: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:12:59 AM

She's also indulged in deplorable queerbaiting with Dumbledore and Grindelwald. Nobody's perfect, there are no heroes.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#270654: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:15:15 AM

That's the kind of statement one makes towards people who are alcoholic or do littering.

Transphobia goes a bit farther than just a personal flaw.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#270655: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:18:23 AM

I suppose it's because she's not outright said she's transphobic but given plenty of hints,publicly doing so would damage her brand so to speak

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270656: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:33:45 AM

[up][up]Yeah, well, that's what we get. However, this undelscores my point; imagine if Rowling used her money and influence to push against trans rights. Even the 'nice' billionnaires, acting in good faith, can be dead wrong about some things, and have way too much power to act on their wrong beliefs.

Thankfully, unlike personal flaws, transphobia is an opinion that can be changed. I know mine has, dramatically. So could hers.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#270658: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:00:12 AM

[up][up]It sounds like you're pushing for people not being allowed to be billionaires because you don't trust people in general.

And transphobia is not just an opinion. It's a personal flaw. Bigotry is a personal flaw. That it's not something necessarily set in stone doesn't change this.

Edited by M84 on Feb 9th 2019 at 8:02:47 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#270659: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:06:33 AM

Yeah Rowling has donated the maximum she can to the UK Labour Party and continues to be a member even though she disagrees with Corbyn.

Rowling does however have a confusing and bad track record on social issues. She’s transphobic, has little to no understanding of non-British countries and tends to get in fights with trolls on Twitter.

But that all gets complicated by the fact that some accusations against her were made up (she didn’t make Dumbledore gay after the fact for brownie points, it was just never explicitly stated outside of notes to the actors until she mentioned it publicly), other times there’s cultural confusion between British and American culture and finally that twitter (her main method of communication with people) is a terrible method of communicating and having a conversation.

Also she’s annoyed a number of fans separately with her rather haphazard wordbuilding after finishing the books.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270660: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:09:46 AM

It's all about some irrational, misanthropic mistrust, it's about empirical observation and a basic understanding of power dynamics, incentive systems, and the predictable limitations of human hearts and minds. Why 'trust' when you can have guarantees and accountability?

[up]The Word of Gay is entirely forgivable, but there's no excuse for keeping any inkling of romance between Dummy and Grindy in the film. Heck, instead of Dummy being unable to face Grindy because he's in love with him, it's because of some stupid magical blood pact or some bullshit. That's just petty, cowardly, exploitative, and insulting.

Edited by Oruka on Feb 9th 2019 at 4:13:50 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#270661: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:13:30 AM

I live in Virginia. Pity me.

Also, Candace Owens is a STUPID (expletive deleted). Why aren't there any SMART black conservatives; instead there's her, David Clarke, Diamond and Silk...

Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#270662: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:15:26 AM

>Who, IIRC, gave away enough money to charities that she no longer qualifies as a billionaire, so she doesn't count anymore.

I think due to the new movies, she's back up.

Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270663: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:16:21 AM

Well, sine the Southern Strategy, Conservatism married Racism and Black people who are sane and smart tend to get selected out.

Well, you know what they say, thank God for Mississippi.

Also, M84, I have trouble conceptualizing things as a 'personal flaw' when they go away after having things explained to one or looking up facts. No amount of explaining or research can stop greed, violent anger, cruelty, avarice, narcissism, or sociopathy. There's a difference between being 'wrong' and being 'bad'.

Edited by Oruka on Feb 9th 2019 at 4:23:09 AM

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#270664: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:33:46 AM

there's no excuse for keeping any inkling of romance between Dummy and Grindy in the film. Heck, instead of Dummy being unable to face Grindy because he's in love with him, it's because of some stupid magical blood pact or some bullshit.

So her post-book retcons now include homosexual erasure? Goddamit.

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#270665: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:43:36 AM

She's also okay with keeping Johnny Depp around, even after his abuse came out.

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270666: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:45:23 AM

[up]That too. I can't stand to look at him.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#270667: Feb 9th 2019 at 4:50:01 AM

Mind you I think that may be trying to avoid Dumbledore having Unfortunate Implications of being unable to stop Wizard Hitler. But yes, we need much more overt showing of their love if we're to give her any traction on her Word of Gay for Dumbledore.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#270668: Feb 9th 2019 at 5:07:39 AM

Back on-topic, I have this to ask: how many shutdowns has the US government went through?

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#270669: Feb 9th 2019 at 5:09:32 AM

According to Doctor Wikipedia, about Ten since 1980, of a 22 funding gaps.

Edited by HailMuffins on Feb 9th 2019 at 10:10:21 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#270670: Feb 9th 2019 at 5:09:59 AM

Wikipia has an entire for Government shutdowns

The answer is "A lot of times,depending on whether or not the Government was Republican run"

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270671: Feb 9th 2019 at 5:10:06 AM

Also, note that Dumby started off as a bigot, but outgrew it. What he didn't outgrow was being a Manipulative Bastard and Too Clever by Half. Opinions vs actual character flaws.

[down]Fair enough.

Edited by Oruka on Feb 9th 2019 at 5:23:21 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#270672: Feb 9th 2019 at 5:19:48 AM

[up] That's fairly off topic for now

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#270673: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:11:17 AM

So, fun update: apparently the current draft of the Green New Deal in the house that AOC is working on says nothing about nuclear.

The Green Party has their own green new deal proposal which bans nuclear, and apparently the trolls and right wingers spread around stuff from their proposal and claimed it was from AOC’s.

I feel like a bit of an ass for not checking what the bill said about nuclear myself. Lesson learned.

You're completely right, the proposal itself doesn't mention an intention to move away from nuclear energy.

Rather I got it from a state that AOC's office gave to NPR.

Among the most prominent, the deal calls for "meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources." The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely, Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from nuclear energy.

I'm sorry for lumping that in with the overall Green New Deal without clarifying, I mistakenly conflated their statements with the content of the bill.

It's not irrelevant but the fact it's not in the Green New Deal itself is still important, sorry for accidentally misleading everyone.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 9th 2019 at 10:12:22 AM

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#270674: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:22:03 AM

[up]<hugs> Not to worry, mate. Have a dose of crossed wires is always forgivable. We all do it. smile

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#270675: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:53:05 AM

@Oruka So you do not think bigotry is bad? Just “wrong”?

And if you think bigotry is simply a problem of lack of education...

Edited by M84 on Feb 9th 2019 at 11:54:42 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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