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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I don't know how true this is, that rule came from AOC. There is an extensive history of the environmentalist left rejecting Nuclear power for vacuous reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if she added that to appease them.
It's not even dangerous.
Exactly my thoughts, I don't know who helped AOC make this but that's really disappointing.
I hope someone somewhere corrects that.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 7th 2019 at 2:38:55 PM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangOr include "Sympathetic Republican" in the list of Eskimos Aren't Real.
ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad."If you see something, say something" has also been a gateway to white lady racism and paranoia as well—up to the point 30 Rock did a parody episode about it. Liz Lemon got her East Asian neighbor tortured due to his preparations for the Amazing Race looking like (to an idiot racist) bomb plans....which wasn't really that funny then let alone now.
That's... really weird. Like, is it progressive that they were East Asian terrorists instead of Middle Eastern? Did she think they were a North Korean splinter cell?
Anyhoo, nuclear power isn't dangerous, but nuclear waste is. I sort of understand trepidation about it as we're just kicking the can further up the road which is... not good, at this point? Like, it's what led us to where we are now. I don't want to say it's my (children's children's children's children's children's children's) children's problem, you know? The stuff will outlive us as a civilization, and we don't have a plan for it.
Still for it, mind you. Just... I do wish there was something better.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Yeah, while the risk of a nuclear meltdown is fairly low these days - unless you're running an old and failure-prone plant like Japan or the ones the Belgians and French liked to keep running on our border - the main problem is nuclear waste disposal.
From what I recall, the US still doesn't have a permanent storage facility, with actual attempts to create one having been stonewalled.
John Oliver did a segment on the matter a year ago:
> It's a solved problem already, not kicking the can up the road.
Its called storing them away in huge silos and praying they dont leak,it's not solved by any means,it's been contained,solving would mean disposing of the waste so it's not a risk to the environment or people ie. gone for good
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverIt depends on whether or not you count nuclear as renewable, if you don't then as I understand it things become much more difficult (if not outright impossible).
No matter how you look at it the anti-nuclear requirement is really bad and I hope it dies in the planning stage.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThat said, with a solid position put forward for their idea of a green deal, this makes moving forward at least possible now.
Yes, but considering Congress' history in regards to listening to expertise there is reason for concern.
I don't think we should declare AOC an evil Luddite or give up on the Green New Deal but it's very unfortunate.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI am a little disappointed at the overt anti-nuclear power clauses. I understand people have reservations with the potential dangers of nuclear power but a lot of it is exaggerated fearmongering similar to the Green Left's anti-GMO stances that made me shake my head at Sanders. Many of those dangers can be largely mitigated by competence and correct planning.
Rejecting the Green New Deal would be the worst possible thing to do, especially if you're just gonna dismiss it as Green Party lite.
And anyway, Pelosi came out and said the clapping wasn't sarcastic. Any ironic chants of USA that happened during Trump's speech and all the praise Pelosi is getting for... clapping just reeks of #Resistance bullshit. Even if she was being ironic, she still egged on the dude condemning "socialism" like it's still the 1950s.
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... it's not. It might be sustainable, it might be better for the environment, but it's not a renewable energy source. That's not arguable.
Again, I'm pro-nuclear. I just don't want to go into it with incorrect preconceptions.
My expectations aren't high for her, but neither is my bar. She's been at the job for a month. I'm not making any judgment on her yet.
Edited by Larkmarn on Feb 7th 2019 at 2:57:18 PM
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Nuclear Energy is incredibly safe. India has run 22 reactors over the past few decades - not one incident where something went wrong. And they're building more to augment their electricity needs.
Not sure why people think it's bad. Other than the "Nuke = Evil" association.
Sure, waste disposal is a problem, but hardly an insurmountable one.
I hold the secrets of the machine.Who exactly is arguing for this? We're all just rightfully unhappy that it would do something so counterproductive as to rule out Nuclear Power.
Of course, after all it's not like someone in politics would say something false
Clapping at the socialist bit was not "egging him on". It's one thing to be personally offended but implicitly blaming her for Trump's actions is super gross and tone deaf.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangWell, for starters, Nuclear Plants run exactly like a bog-standard Thermal Plant - you heat up fuel, boil water and rotate turbines.
The only difference is that instead of burning coal and gas, you generate the heat using Nuclear Fission in a heavily shielded Core of a Nuclear Reactor, with a ton of fallbacks and safety features that don't exist for Coal and Gas - which, irony of all ironies, makes the Coal and Gas plants even more unsafe than a Nuclear Plant.
That's a fairly good place to start with the education bit. It's not rocket science.
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Define "insurmountable."
Because it's a problem with no solution. Is it the biggest problem in the world? No, definitely not. But there's no "fix" for it. Like I said, the waste will remain dangerous for generations upon generations. Even assuming we can Ragnarok Proof something so it never leaks, it's a legitimate concern how we'll warn future generations that "hey, don't open this" when linguistic drift means that they will not be speaking any language we have now.
Honestly, it's an interesting problem. And you know what? I'd rather try to deal with it than keep using fossil fuels.
Seriously, it's an interesting problem. These buried waste will, in all likelihood, outlast our civilizations and language.
Edited by Larkmarn on Feb 7th 2019 at 3:05:52 PM
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The oil companies want people to move from nuclear power because they know right now there's no good,clean alternative to nuclear power (renewables can only take you so far)they're hoping abandoning nuclear leaves people depending on fossil fuels once again
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