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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#270101: Feb 5th 2019 at 2:35:15 PM

For comparison this is what Kirsten Gillibrand has said:

Between @staceyabrams and @AG Becerra, Democrats will be represented tonight by two of our best leaders with an exciting, dynamic pair of #SOTU responses. This is our party: diverse, full of heart, and forward-looking.

Sanders decision is inexcusable.

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#270102: Feb 5th 2019 at 2:42:20 PM

Tone-deaf is an occasional accident.

What Sanders has is a pattern of behavior.

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#270103: Feb 5th 2019 at 2:47:26 PM

Well, "tone deafness" is a pattern as well. And more innocently, if Sanders will give his own SOTU response mentioning it along with Abrams's one is a rational Twitter writing way (notice how Xavier Becerra isn't even mentioning Abrams)

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#270104: Feb 5th 2019 at 2:51:51 PM

It makes sense pragmatically if he's giving his own response. But the fact that he's giving his own response is the issue.

The party's chosen who they want to give the speeches. Now, Bernie's an Independent whenever it suits him, so he doesn't have to abide by that. But that, in and of itself, is another demonstration of how he has no actual intention or desire to be part of the party whose nomination for Presidency he covets.

He's basically pulling a Kanye here. "Yo, Abrams, I'm real happy for you and Imma let you finish, but the SOTU response I'm putting together is one of the best speeches of all time! Of all time."

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#270105: Feb 5th 2019 at 2:55:01 PM

Sanders isn't taking away time from anyone. I believe more candidates should give their own rebuttals so we know who to vote for.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Feb 5th 2019 at 2:55:27 AM

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#270106: Feb 5th 2019 at 2:55:48 PM

No but he's trying to hog the spotlight

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#270107: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:01:15 PM

Yes, but you have to do that if you want to be President.

Which...bluntly, a problem with him for many people is that he's running again.

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#270108: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:04:37 PM

Sanders has previously responded to Trump's speeches and if my understanding is correct only the official - Abrams's - reply will be in TV and almost certainly also on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter. So I am not entirely convinced by the "hogging the spotlight" thesis.

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#270109: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:07:17 PM

An established historic pattern of spotlight-hogging does not make him less of a spotlight-hog.

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#270110: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:08:22 PM

He's such a hog he belongs on a farm!

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#270111: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:42:05 PM

Well...that was underwhelming.

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#270112: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:44:24 PM

My joke?

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#270113: Feb 5th 2019 at 3:46:08 PM

Sorry, my mistake.

Just readying for Trump's speech.

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#270114: Feb 5th 2019 at 4:15:37 PM

Some good news out of my state:

Idaho Supreme Court upholds Medicaid expansion

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article225578040.html

The Idaho Supreme Court on Tuesday said Medicaid expansion, passed by voters as ballot Proposition 2, is legal.

The court ruled against the Idaho Freedom Foundation in its lawsuit, which argued that Prop 2 to expand Medicaid was written in a way that gave too much power to the federal government and one state agency.

Medicaid expansion will make Idaho’s working poor — those in the “Medicaid gap” — eligible for public health insurance in 2020.

The ruling came just one week after the court heard arguments from both sides: the Idaho Freedom Foundation and the Idaho Secretary of State. The court also heard from a lawyer representing Idaho physicians and two Idaho women who would qualify for expanded Medicaid.

About 61 percent of Idaho voters approved the law. It allows people who make less than 138 percent of poverty-level income to qualify for Medicaid coverage, even if they don’t have children or a disability.

The Idaho Attorney General’s Office had argued that the lawsuit — brought by IFF board chairman Brent Regan — lacked merit and was “frivolous, unreasonable and without foundation on several levels.”

The lawsuit isn’t the only challenge Medicaid expansion is facing in Idaho.

After being sworn in, Gov. Brad Little vowed to uphold the will of the voters and to support the expansion of Medicaid. But he and state legislators have discussed possible restrictions, such as work requirements. Lawmakers also must decide how to fund the expansion. Idaho would pay 10 percent of the cost, and federal funding would cover the remaining 90 percent — a much larger share than the federal government has covered for traditional Medicaid in Idaho.

The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare expects to submit its plan for expansion to federal officials by Feb. 18.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#270115: Feb 5th 2019 at 5:17:41 PM

Chuck Schumer didn't even bother waiting for Trump's SOTU, and it's 24 hour at best call for unity, to blast it

“Knowing this president, he will then make some bold new promises and not even make an attempt to fulfill them. The man has so little integrity that a promise that he makes at the State of the Union means nothing the next morning.

It seems every year the president wakes up and discovers the desire for unity on the morning of the State of the Union. Then the president spends the other 364 days of the year dividing us and sowing a state of disunion.

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#270116: Feb 5th 2019 at 5:18:06 PM

I really love Zerlina Maxwell's take on this:

It would be dope if Bernie was like I don’t need to do a SOTU response bc a capable Black women has got that covered but he couldn’t and didn’t and Black women see that and we won’t forget.

Sanders and his fans can take that, put in their pipes, and smoke on it.

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#270117: Feb 5th 2019 at 5:18:14 PM

[up][up]Ha, well done Schumer!

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 5th 2019 at 8:18:34 AM

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#270118: Feb 5th 2019 at 5:26:58 PM

@scifislasher: That is probably some of the worst degree of looking for anything to bash Sanders I've seen here.

The man has done his own separate SOTU response every single year since Trump was elected and I saw them all. Can I not enjoy seeing what he has to say about policies now? Do I need to be satisfied with the predictable democratic response?

Life is unfair...
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#270119: Feb 5th 2019 at 6:06:20 PM

By the way, NPR will be Fact Checking Trump as the SOTU goes on.

Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#270120: Feb 5th 2019 at 6:06:57 PM

"Sanders and his fans can take that, put in their pipes, and smoke on it."

[in my best David Tennant voice] Hm. *puff puff* Not bad at all. Smells like teenage spirit!

As for Schmuer, that's so courageous of him, pulling a Joseph Joestar like that. If Trump ends up doing something different... One thing Schmuer misses, for instance, is that Trump kept or did his damnedest to keep the promises that Hus base cares about: hurting POC, making liberals mad, and fucking up the environment for dying industries.

[up]Cataloguing all the enormous lies out of his mouth feels like cleaning vomit a night club's bathroom floor. I see why it needs to be done, but the gesture feels so futile.

Edited by Oruka on Feb 5th 2019 at 6:17:39 AM

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#270121: Feb 5th 2019 at 6:37:19 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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#270123: Feb 5th 2019 at 7:17:06 PM

Bernie's rebuttal won't take away from her's.

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#270124: Feb 5th 2019 at 7:18:48 PM

I'm late to the filibuster conversation, but keep in mind - the filibuster is the only reason Trump's fucking wall hasn't gotten its funding. Even McConnell isn't quite so Stupid Evil as to think removing the filibuster in order to get it is worth the price.

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#270125: Feb 5th 2019 at 7:37:49 PM

SOTU is over. Thankfully he still didn't declare a State of Emergency, and aside from the anti-immigration theoretic and that one bit about 'SOCIALISM BAD!', it was mostly just tooting his non-existent horn. Thank God for teleprompters.

Democrat response is next.


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