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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#269851: Feb 2nd 2019 at 1:57:26 PM

[up][up]Nah. Any such effort coming from a Republican would no doubt be in bad faith and hypocritical. If anything like that is going to happen, it needs to come from within the Democratic Party itself.

i'm tired, my friend
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#269852: Feb 2nd 2019 at 1:58:58 PM

The Virginia Dems have asked Northam to resign. His lieutenant governor, Justin Fairfax, who is black, has urged him to resign. The black congressional caucus has asked him to resign.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#269853: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:04:43 PM

How deaf does he have to be at this point not to resign?The longer he holds out the more damage he does to the credibility of his own party

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#269854: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:11:41 PM

Is he still refusing?

i'm tired, my friend
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#269855: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:14:17 PM

Assuming he really doesn't resign, what happens then? I looked up that the next election for the governorship will be in 2021, so is there nothing to be done until then?

Edited by LSBK on Feb 2nd 2019 at 4:18:18 AM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#269856: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:15:11 PM

His lieutenant governor, Justin Fairfax, who is black, has urged him to resign.

When you're the person who'd get someone's job if they did resign, it's probably best for you to not ask.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#269857: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:21:44 PM

[up]It's not a good look at first blush, no.

However, when most of the local caucuses and their dogs, cats and budgies are in uproar... <shrugs> It comes across as honest advice rather more than a dagger to the kidneys.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Feb 2nd 2019 at 10:22:12 AM

Arkasas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#269858: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:23:14 PM

[up][up][up] VA's governor is barred from serving consecutive terms, so, unless the legislature is able to remove him, what happens is we all sit around and grouse about Northam for three years until someone replaces him, and hope he doesn't hurt a Democrat's chances of winning the next election too much.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#269859: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:27:38 PM

[up][up][up]I mean, there's also the fact that he's a black man, so this would be kind of a big deal to him, metaphorical heir to the throne or not.

i'm tired, my friend
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#269860: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:41:55 PM

Justin Fairfax also brought descendants of Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee to condemn the typical Virginian tribute to them.

Moreover, after his bullshit non-apology, now Northam is denying that that was him. He's denying that his nickname was "Coonman," when every other source says that it was. Fuck this guy, and let him be an example.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#269861: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:45:21 PM

His stunning lack of awareness makes me wonder how he's had a political career long enough to reach a position of power,maybe he just lucky and now with the photo it;'s finally run out.Either way after this he won't have much of a career left after this

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SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#269862: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:53:13 PM

[up] Honestly? He's white, and he's in the South. Similarly, as we've seen with Kavanaugh and way too many others to even begin to mention, being a white man will protect you from most consequences.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#269863: Feb 2nd 2019 at 2:58:07 PM

Just for the record, here’s what Justin Fairfax said.

Like so many Virginians, I am shocked and saddened by the images in the Governor's yearbook that came to light yesterday.

They are an example of a painful scourge that continues to haunt us today and holds us back from the progress we need to make.

As we commemorate 400 years since the first enslaved Africans were brought to Virginia, it is painful to experience such a searing reminder of the modern legacy of our nation's original sin. And, as someone whose great-great-great grandfather was enslaved in Virginia, this episode strikes particularly close to home.

The Governor needed to apologize, and I am glad that he did so. He also reached out to me personally to express his sincere regrets and to apologize.

I have worked closely with Ralph Northam over many years. He has been a friend to me and has treated my family and me with hospitality and respect.

While his career has been marked by service to children, soldiers, and constituents, I cannot condone the actions from his past that, at the very least, suggest a comfort with Virginia's darker history of white supremacy, racial stereotyping, and intimidation.

At this critical and defining moment in the history of Virginia and this nation, we need leaders with the ability to unite and help us rise to the better angels of our nature.

I remain committed to serving and helping to heal the Commonwealth moving forward. Now more than ever, we must make decisions in the best interests of the people of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

I don’t think it’s even possible to be more tactful than this, given the situation.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#269864: Feb 2nd 2019 at 3:00:45 PM

Someone asked if there were any 80s movies with blackface, and lo and behold, there is one. Soul Man, about a white guy who fakes being black to get an African-American only college scholarship. It was a box office success, too.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#269865: Feb 2nd 2019 at 3:13:20 PM

In the (small) defence of the movie: It actually has a pretty thoughtful scene towards the end when after the liars reveal the protagonist is asked if he now understands the plight of Afro-Americans and finally says that no, he doesn't, because he could have stopped taking the pills (he takes tanning pill to look black - yes, really) whenever he wanted, but an actual African-American has no choice.

I think it was well meant in a way but I think if they wanted to make a movie like this, it might have been a good idea to actually talk to African Americans and ask how they feel about it (and let it be if they said that there is no way to make it anything but offensive) and involved them in the writing process.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#269866: Feb 2nd 2019 at 3:15:25 PM

[up][up] I see. The fact that it was financially successful, if certainly controversial and critically panned, would seem to suggest a populace who was willing to accept this sort of thing, though I don't know if that's necessarily indicative of a larger trend in media.

...Though come to think of it, I do recall hearing that The A-Team did use blackface on at least one occasion, I don't know how often, and that was made in the 80's. So maybe we are underestimating how acceptable it might have been?

Does anyone else know of anymore examples?

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Feb 2nd 2019 at 6:16:31 AM

Oh God! Natural light!
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#269867: Feb 2nd 2019 at 3:19:15 PM

[up]I couldn't swear by it, but I think it turned up in McGyver, as well. It's been ages, though. M*A*S*H had yellowface in various guises and played in various ways, too. It turned up. <shrugs>

Why is it hard to cough up a full list of instances? Well, I never bothered with Soul Man at the time, so forgot it even existed. Until reminded of it, just now. Just as I've probably forgotten all the specific times it popped up in various TV shows, but recall the general "it cropped up" (including in kids animation — I'm looking at you, Orko).

Just realised a big one: Quantum Leap. I loved that show, but forgot it actually started in '89. I associate it more with the early '90s. Not blackface, as such... But think about the entire premise. And, try putting forward "white dude jumps around in time into a lot of people's lives and fixes them up before moving off — many of them being women of colour; they live with the consequences and memory blanks, but it's OK because Al and Ziggy say it is" as a goer of a pitch these days. Oh, boy.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Feb 2nd 2019 at 11:57:49 AM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#269868: Feb 2nd 2019 at 3:24:07 PM

I feel people here think that being aceptable or no suddenly make all used null and is not like that is VERY gradual, people still used homophobic remark or words like R word, etc.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#269869: Feb 2nd 2019 at 3:41:15 PM

it doesn't sound like he's handling the situation well, which could be indicative of things itself.
It's making me feel less willing to continue extending the benefit of the doubt.
if he honestly can’t remember having chosen to punish a racist photo in his medical yearbook than he must have been up to so much racist shit that it slipped though the cracks.
Or it was one of many dumb stunts which at the time didn't seem all that bad.
if he resigns or not should be up to the Virginia black caucus, if he wants to show that he’s grown beyond the racism shown there then willingly submitting himself to the desicion of a group of African Americans seems like the best way to do it.
This sounds like an excellent idea.
The Virginia Dems have asked Northam to resign. His lieutenant governor, Justin Fairfax, who is black, has urged him to resign. The black congressional caucus has asked him to resign.
Huh. Ok, y'all win, he should hand over the keys to his LG and go home. If everyone in his own local party are telling him to give it up, he should.
what happens is we all sit around and grouse about Northam for three yearsdays until someone replaces himTrump does/says something else stupid
More like it.
I feel people here think that being aceptable or no suddenly make all used null and is not like that is VERY gradual, people still used homophobic remark or words like R word, etc.
Casually homophobic insults were still the norm into the start of the 21st century. Some places in the US, they still are, though I think (and hope) those places are shrinking.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#269870: Feb 2nd 2019 at 4:23:16 PM

In an interview with the New York Times, Trump, well, I’ll let Steven Colbert describe it.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#269871: Feb 2nd 2019 at 4:42:42 PM

Pelosi is saying he needs to go too when it comes from someone who is practically the leader of democratic party he'll have to pay attention now

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#269872: Feb 2nd 2019 at 5:24:04 PM

Looking at trump speech and how he is entitled to a great story make me think that, have we anything like republican, we will acused trump or being a whinny crybaby and a "cuck" for expecting shit for other people, specially for the same he insult.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#269873: Feb 2nd 2019 at 8:48:47 PM

I can’t watch the video. What did he say.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#269874: Feb 2nd 2019 at 9:09:43 PM

[up] A whole lot of nothing. I could put it here if you want me too, but it will most likely give you a headache. Here's the full interview transcript though. (Try on a incognito tab)

TRUMP: No, because it’s a very big job and there is a lot to do. And I would say that I would really start focusing — you know, we’ve done a lot on health care, and people haven’t given us too much credit. We have a lot of the different plans, the cooperative plans and other plans. Health care was terminated, and if the Obamacare were repealed and replaced — except for John Mc Cain, it would have been, you know, he campaigned against it for six years, and then when he had the chance, he went thumbs down at 2:00 in the morning....

....So, Maggie, here’s the bottom line: I love doing it. I don’t know if i should love doing it, but I love doing it.

Edited by megaeliz on Feb 2nd 2019 at 12:16:42 PM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#269875: Feb 2nd 2019 at 10:19:29 PM

@Colbert video: [lol] I need to watch more of this guy's show! I already know of him, but this is the first time I remember actually watching him. Not one minute in, and I utterly love his sarcastic quips!

The fact that he's making fun of Trump is only icing on the cake.

Edited by MarqFJA on Feb 2nd 2019 at 9:19:57 PM

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