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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
You give him too much credit.
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"I found a tweet relevant to this news. basically, this is a tactic used in torture by giving us a break to see if people will cave. If not, the torture begins again. Rinse and repeat until they get the desired result."
I'd phrase it as a negotiation technique, but yhea.
Edited by Soban on Jan 25th 2019 at 6:52:15 AM
I'd say it's partly that. Between Trump being called the biggest wimp ever by Coulter and conservative commentators losing their minds, he is currently a huge laughingstock
amongst far-right pundits.
Edited by ITNW1989 on Jan 25th 2019 at 4:17:44 AM
Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.![]()
Ah, I apologize, I'm subscribed to the Post, so I forgot that not everyone else is. Here's another from Politico detailing the right-wing meltdown
, and another from Reuters.
However, given the massive gutting of news media this week, please try to purchase a digital subscription to your local paper if you can afford it (Wash Po is doing fine, use incognito guilt free).
No, this isn't right at all.
Trump wanted the wall to be funded or else the government wouldn't get funding, Pelosi didn't want the wall to be funded and wanted the government to be funded.
Pelosi won.
To treat this as an intentional tactic of Trump's instead of a very real defeat is simply dishonest, it's the kind of revisionism I expect from Trump supporters. Your source is a gigantic hack.
For those who want a visual explanation, this is what happened
.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jan 25th 2019 at 8:48:31 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangCould we not call sources hacks without citing a basis for that opinion?
Additionally, Trump has already threatened to shut the government down in three weeks. It’s entirely possible that, as a natural bully, Trump fully intends to resume being awful when he doesn’t immediately get his way. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
I did cite a basis for my opinion, Trump is backing down from his 31 day objective that we fund the wall and submitting to the Democratic demand to fund the government without the wall.
That is a defeat by literally any serious metric.
Anyone who says that is a tactic instead of a defeat is a hack.
A defeat does not need to be perpetual to be a defeat, he was beaten and if tries again he'll be beaten again.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jan 25th 2019 at 8:51:44 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangOne of the far-right commentators throwing a hissy fit over Trump caving is named Michael Malice? Wow.
Do not obey in advance.The writer of our timeline should be fired, they clearly have run out of ideas.
That's the kind of name a Dark Elf would have, does he go around in improbably spiky armor while wearing black eyeliner?
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jan 25th 2019 at 8:56:36 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang"No seriously guys, it's all part of his master plan!"
The idea that a clear defeat like this is part of Trump's plan is hilariously pathetic, that's not a message that's going to resonate anywhere.
Even Trump supporters have a hard time pretending he hasn't been defeated soundly.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThat is a defeat by literally any serious metric.
Anyone who says that is a tactic instead of a defeat is a hack.
That’s not what a hack is. And I think the word shouldn’t be thrown around lightly. Trump has pretty effectively cratered our institutional norms and filled the White House with family members and yes men; he’s a bully and an authoritarian by instinct. So excuse me for being cautious and concerned that this is only a temporary respite.
