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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#268402: Jan 23rd 2019 at 11:10:51 PM

Conspiracy theory time: The shutdown continues because it prevents anyone from looking deeper into Trump's criminal dealings.

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#268403: Jan 23rd 2019 at 11:18:16 PM

Thump is both self-centered enough to do that and at the same time so stupid that I seriously doubt he could actually connect those dots unless someone specifically explained it to him.

On him folding to Pelosi on the SOTU, I take this as a good sign. Any other day, Trump would fight tooth and nail to show her up. If he's willing to concede here, I'm thinking the shutdown isn't much further off.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#268404: Jan 24th 2019 at 12:21:01 AM

[up][up][up] Whether or not the accusation is true I'm glad pressure is coming down on those who shield or appear to be shielding sexual predators within their employ, rather than their victims.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#268405: Jan 24th 2019 at 1:55:06 AM

So you know the reporter who broke the story about the unnamed rancher finding all those prayer rugs on the Mexican border?

Turns out she used to work for FAIR.

Quelle Surprise.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#268406: Jan 24th 2019 at 6:02:31 AM

Conspiracy theory time: The shutdown continues because it prevents anyone from looking deeper into Trump's criminal dealings.

I mean, it's not really a conspiracy theory that the shutdown fucking everything up is a feature, not a bug.

The investigation into Trump violating the emoluments clause, the EPA being unable to do its job, the IRS being unable to do its job, failing border and national security, all of it helps the GOP. Other than approval numbers, the shutdown is a massive boon to Trump and the GOP, which is why those approval numbers (and in particular getting the blame where it needs to be) is so important.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#268407: Jan 24th 2019 at 6:47:28 AM

I'm inclined to think Sheila Jackson Lee shoudl resign her seat. This is utterly unacceptable.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#268408: Jan 24th 2019 at 7:17:06 AM

As for GOP support, Charles is mostly right. The upper middle class frat boys and alpha male wanna be's who are Trump's core supporters couldnt care less what happens to the rest of the country, so long as they get their tax breaks and white male privileges. How excited the rest of us get over the shutdown is amusing to them.

That said, neither Trump nor the Republicans can win elections on that vote alone.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Ludlow Since: Apr, 2013
#268409: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:30:47 AM

Its times like this that I wish the South would just split off from the rest of the United States and become its own country again. I guarantee that the GOP as it is today wouldn't be nearly as popular without those states, and the next time I hear a Texas gloat about their supposed ability to secede I'm going to to tell them to go ahead.

Edited by Ludlow on Jan 24th 2019 at 8:31:34 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#268410: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:37:59 AM

Somehow I doubt that opinion is very comforting to the millions of minorities and white progressives living in the South under Republican control.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#268411: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:38:11 AM

Speaking as someone who lives in the south? I'm sorry, but screw that noise.

I'm a proud liberal. I fight for causes on the left. There's a lot of people like me. They're all over. They just won Doug Jones a Senate seat not long ago. Andrew Gillum, Stacey Abrams, Randall Woodfin? Are part of that movement.

Stop pretending we don't exist or matter and that our fight doesn't yield results with this "oh, the South should form its own country."

But just leave us all to the mercy of Republican governments. That's real progressive.

Edited by Lightysnake on Jan 24th 2019 at 8:38:35 AM

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#268412: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:39:12 AM

RE Sheila Jackson Lee: I just read the article, and just want to clarify in case some people haven't actually done so for some reason yet have started to form opinions about her... The sexual assault accusation by the fired employee is not aimed at Jackson Lee, but a third person who also worked in the same organization.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jan 24th 2019 at 7:39:24 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#268413: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:40:08 AM

Her firing the individual bringing the complaint is the sticking point for me.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#268415: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:02:21 AM

That would absolutely be reprehensible.

The timeline is really... interesting.

The assault took place in 2015, when the accuser was 19. She got a job in Jackson's office in November of 2017 (so she was likely 21 or 22) and she was on staff until the end of March (aka the end of the quarter) so it could genuinely be coincidental. A junior staffer being let go after four months is not unheard of.

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#268416: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:21:01 AM

[up]x2 Do those ppl wanna get guillotined, coz this is how you get guillotined...

Edited by nightwyrm_zero on Jan 24th 2019 at 12:21:17 PM

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#268417: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:23:41 AM

We're seeing a deliberate dismantling of our civil service right before our eyes.

If even 10 percent of them with 5+ years of experience go to the private sector that's an enormous net loss of bureaucratic experience for the Feds.

New Survey coming this weekend!
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Face me now, bitch!
#268418: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:24:16 AM

The Evil turtle blocked the recent bills to re open the government. Again.

What else is new...

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#268419: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:33:48 AM

The ones that were supposed to be voted on?

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#268420: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:38:38 AM

For some of them, this is how they starve the "beast". Mc Connel will go back to Kentucky next time and run on how he helped reduce the Federal budget.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#268421: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:47:46 AM

@TacticalFox88: Rumor has it the administration is planning on cutting jobs if the shutdown drags on until March, which I expect it will. I wonder if that's part of the current gameplan.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#268422: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:48:47 AM

This is a feature, not a bug. Kill the Poor is his modus operandi, and the irs being swamped just means he can ignore taxes too. It’s a win-win.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#268423: Jan 24th 2019 at 9:52:25 AM

That is, if IRS workers are willing to come in. People will be extremely angry if they don't get their tax returns this April. Almost rioting level of upset.

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#268424: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:01:07 AM

For tax evaders, I mean. Like Mitch.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#268425: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:23:33 AM

Speaking of that, If anyone is looking for a volunteering opportunity to help Furloughed Federal Workers, a really good one would be "Chefs for Feds", that provides hot, chef prepared meals to Federal Employees, lead by José Andrés and World Central Kitchen. They already have places set up in DC, and are starting to expand to other states.

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 24th 2019 at 1:27:33 PM


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