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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I wouldn’t say that the lion’s share of resources go towards deportation. ERO only has about 3,000–6,000 officers (this number has fluctuated quite a lot over the years, it’s actually been dropping under Trump) out of 20,000 ICE employees total. HSI, the part of ICE that does all the other investigative stuff, usually has around 8,000-9,000 officers for reference.
I will mention, though, that ERO’s budget is gigantic for how many people it employs. In fact, it has one of the largest budgets per employee in the entire government.
Despite that, though, deportation really only involves roughly about a third of the agency. You could fire everyone involved in that and the agency would pretty much be fine, which is what the next Democratic President should be doing quite frankly. The money can then be put back into the other end of ICE or sent to agencies like ORR, who are in charge of housing migrant children.
I’m not sure deportation should even really be a thing we’re doing at all. Unless they’re committing serious crimes here or their home country has a legitimate reason to want them back people shouldn’t be deported under any circumstances.
Edited by archonspeaks on Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:05:22 AM
They should have sent a poet.Sure, and I have no problem with acknowledging that it would be a defacto rebranding.
My point is just that serious politicians can have good reasons to push for the 'destruction' of ICE without being silly.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangNot that this pages-long debate on whether ICE should be disbanded or rebranded isn't interesting, but there are other things to discuss.
Like the vote to reopen the government on Thursday. From what I understand, there are two potential budgets. The first one, as already mentioned, is DOA, since it contains a lot of hardline immigration policies.
There's another one, though, that funds the government through 2/8 (admittedly, not a very long time... couldn't they come up with a longer time frame?). Catch is, it doesn't contain border wall funding, so Trump will not sign it. My question is, will there be enough support in Congress at this point to override his veto, or is it just as DOA as such a thing was a month ago?
Oh, and just to make things worse: Even though the IRS is technically open during the shutdown, many employees are not showing up, which means delays on refunds.
A lot of us depend on refunds. If I don't get one in the usual time frame all because Trump can't budge an inch on the wall issue... that is not cool.
Edited by speedyboris on Jan 23rd 2019 at 8:59:47 AM
There almost certainly won't be enough support for overriding Trump's expected veto. His popularity hasn't fallen enough and we aren't close enough to another election for Republican lawmakers to feel any pressure to reopen the government.
Assuming that there will be a vote on a continuing resolution, of course.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIt probably wouldn't if it was a room full of white guys with guilty consciences like a lot of primaries wind up being. But this year, he's got some fierce competition from the X chromosome. He's sharing the spotlight with Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Kristen Gillibrand, and Tulsi Gabbard who is a person that sucks as a person but is still a woman. That shit is not going to slide.
This year's Democratic primary is a bad place to be a man who likes to grope women inappropriately.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Any chance a mob with torches and pitchforks can picket the IRS saying Refund Now?
I hold the secrets of the machine.![]()
And, not to be a complete pedant, Trans Women would have a Y chromosome and still count.
Not the IRS' fault, I don't think. They aren't the ones shutting down the Government.
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Edited by AzurePaladin on Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:58:46 AM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerAlso, something we missed, it seems: Pete Buttigieg
, a mayor from South Bend, Indiana, has joined the race.
I know very little about him, and there seems to be things to like and to dislike about him. Regardless, I'll throw this out there in case anyone wants to discuss.
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerSenate Dem introduces 'Stop Stupidity' act to end government shutdowns
The Stop Stupidity (Shutdowns Transferring Unnecessary Pain and Inflicting Damage In The Coming Years) Act would automatically renew funding for all aspects of government, besides the legislative branch and president's office, at the same level as the previous year.
A press release about the legislation said that such a policy would keep the government running in the event that lawmakers are not able to pass a funding bill due to policy differences.
State Department cancels border security conference due to shutdown over border security
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/state-dept-border-security-conference-postponed/index.html
The 16th International Export Control and Border Security Conference was scheduled to take place in Edinburgh, Scotland, in mid-February, with a goal of preventing the proliferation and transfer of weapons of mass destruction and conventional weapons across borders.
However, it has been postponed "due to uncertainty associated with the continuing partial U.S. federal government shutdown," according to a letter obtained by CNN, signed by Kathryn Insley, the director of the Office of Export Control Cooperation. In the letter, dated January 16, Insley wrote that they "are working to identify alternative dates" and would be in contact with participants "as soon as we are operational again."
Edited by sgamer82 on Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:24:23 AM
@Raineh Daze: In fact, most people have 22 X-Chromosome Pairs, only the last Chromosome is a Y-or-X Chromosome.
Leviticus 19:34Sen. Jon Tester Asks Colleagues to Stand Up to Trump on The Shutdown.
I like this guy. This blunt honesty about the shitshow that is happening is very much needed.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Tester is one of the most moderate/conservative Democrats in the Senate (though he votes with his party of most of the biggest issues); no surprise considering that he represents Montana. Him going after Trump and the Republicans is a good sign that Democratic ranks are not going to break.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.OK, what is this about? Biden’s Paid Speech Buoyed the G.O.P. in Midwest Battleground
Cohen is delaying his testimony to Congress, citing Trump's threats against his family.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Lets put it this way- yes the list of every little thing they do seems long, but I believe that the lions share of resources is going toward deportations, a mission which is completely futile from a law enforcement perspective. Remove deporting people, and what's left isnt enough for a stand alone agency. The FBI could absorb it all with barely a hiccup.
Archons propsal isnt a bad one, though.
Edited by DeMarquis on Jan 23rd 2019 at 6:57:34 AM
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.