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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#267851: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:41:19 PM

Okay so I've been watching this thread and I need to ask since this topic has come up.

My college roommate believes that not only is "left racism" against white people as bad as white supremacy, but there are more of those types of people. I know that is not true, but does anyone have proof that I could use against him?

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#267852: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:42:15 PM

In my experience, those types have made up their minds and no evidence, facts, or statistics will sway them. If anything, they'll do the opposite.

i'm tired, my friend
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#267853: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:44:10 PM

No, he's the type of person who won't believe anything without proof (he didn't believe that accusations against Kavanaugh because there was "no proof").

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#267854: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:44:13 PM

>Sci-Fi Slasher, please stop. We're done. We have been done. This isn't the right thread.

I don't even necessarily disagree with some of what you're saying either, but this is now three personal attacks in two days I've counted from you. The forum has rules about this.

On the other hand,

And yes, if you are white, you automatically have white privilege. Doesn't matter if you're poor, disabled, LGBT+, or a woman. If you're white, that will still give you a pass on anything.

No, it will absolutely not give you a pass on everything. All of these groups can have white privilege, and that privilege effects their lives, but lets not pretend these groups necessarily "get a pass" out of their own issues.

To understand bigotry fully, you have to take an inter sectional approach to it. This does not mean ignoring those issues completely.

[up] I think trying to convince him is an exercise in futility then, sorry.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Jan 19th 2019 at 3:48:20 PM

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#267855: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:46:57 PM

Can you tell me what constitutes 'Proof' for him? Because a lot of these people tend to be the 'Evolution is just a Theory' people.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#267856: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:48:08 PM

[up][up][tup]

Edited by LSBK on Jan 19th 2019 at 2:49:35 PM

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#267857: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:48:24 PM

He's an atheist who believes an evolution, so he's not that type of person. He's just centrist to an annoying extreme.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#267858: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:48:40 PM

[up]x5 Even if you did show him proof (whatever proof would mean in this case), he'd move the goalposts so fast they'd break through time.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jan 19th 2019 at 12:48:56 PM

i'm tired, my friend
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#267859: Jan 19th 2019 at 12:53:12 PM

Er, we do have a Racism thread to discuss the meaning of racism and what it is or is not.

SciFiSlasher, I am not sure what you are doing with these posts but they aren't helpful.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#267860: Jan 19th 2019 at 1:04:02 PM

Governor Newsom of California is trying to let federal employees affected by Trump's shut down get unemployment aid.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#267861: Jan 19th 2019 at 1:40:39 PM

You should see his policy goals, for the state.

Practically gave the amateur policy wonk in me full mast.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#267862: Jan 19th 2019 at 1:48:05 PM

White privilege might increase one's chances of getting a pass, in some cases dramatically, but it's never an absolute guarantee one way or another. Same with other forms of privilege, and to pretend otherwise is being deliberately Manichaean.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#267863: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:05:53 PM

Trump's Shut Down deal: If Democrats fund his wall, he'll agree to stop trying to deport Dreamers for three years.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#267864: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:12:42 PM

What a completely abhorrent person and it is extremely obvious he will not bother to even try to keep that deal.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267865: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:13:55 PM

[up] Pelosi has already made a statement that his proposal is nonviable.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#267866: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:15:37 PM

And "for three years"? Amazing arrogance, there.

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#267867: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:27:19 PM

Who honestly thought he'd propose something reasonable?

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Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#267868: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:30:13 PM

It's like he's trying to understand what they want, yet completely fucks it up.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#267869: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:33:18 PM

Some more detail on Trump's "Deal"

What interests me is "$800 million to improve care for children and families at the border" thats an insane amount of money to throw at a problem,it sounds like he thinks promising huge amounts of money will satisfy their interests,forgetting he actually has to delivor on his promise

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#267870: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:43:29 PM

I wonder if this is a variation on "I'll set the house on fire so that I can bill the owner for putting it out again!"

Somewhat old story, but A black R&B artist hoped singing for Trump would build ‘a bridge.’ It derailed her career instead. (note that the singer in question was never a Trump supporter) and It was getting ugly’: Native American drummer speaks on the MAGA-hat wearing teens who surrounded him (aye, that teenager looks like trouble)

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#267871: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:44:09 PM

edit: moved to another thread

Edited by Draghinazzo on Jan 19th 2019 at 7:12:44 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#267872: Jan 19th 2019 at 2:57:32 PM

Draghinazzo, that discussion thread has moved on...

Meanwhile, it looks like the immigration hardliners aren't satisfied by Trump's offer.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#267873: Jan 19th 2019 at 3:02:17 PM

edit: Moving thread.

Edited by Silasw on Jan 19th 2019 at 11:03:06 AM

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TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#267874: Jan 19th 2019 at 3:08:51 PM

[up][up] Golden Mean Fallacy in full swing. You try to appease both sides, and piss everyone off.

Then again, the fact that Trump thought this could work speaks volumes about his thought process, or the lack thereof.

The Art of the Deal, right?

Edited by TechPriest90 on Jan 19th 2019 at 6:11:32 AM

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#267875: Jan 19th 2019 at 3:13:14 PM

I take a great amount of cathartic pleasure in the backfiring of this "offer" on Trump. Here's to hoping that he worsens said backfiring by whatever he tries to "fix" it, just so that he's driven to his non-existent wits' end over how he's failing no matter what he does.

Seriously, what does it take to make him realize that he's utterly stupid and incompetent as a businessman and politician? Having the fact thrown in his face with the subtlety of a wall of stone bricks toppling on him? What would that be like?

Edited by MarqFJA on Jan 19th 2019 at 2:15:48 PM

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