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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#267652: Jan 18th 2019 at 6:33:22 AM

£5 says that Giuliani comes out claiming that he never said Trump didn’t cover up collusion, just that Trump didn’t do it himself.

Edited by Silasw on Jan 18th 2019 at 2:33:53 PM

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#267653: Jan 18th 2019 at 6:55:04 AM

How has Trump not fired Giuliani yet?

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jan 18th 2019 at 3:55:16 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267654: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:00:03 AM

He probably wants to fire everybody but can't

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#267655: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:04:54 AM

[up] Giuliani is his lawyer, though - that seems like the one job he could easily fire people from.

It's kinda weird how the Mooch got axed after around a week or so for saying stupid things on camera, while Giuliani seems to actively undermine Trump.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#267656: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:05:33 AM

You think Trump realises that Gulliani's strategy is insane?

If Fox start calling Gulliani a hindrance that I'm sure Trump will fire him (via Twitter, Trump is know to be to big a coward to fire anyone face to face).

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267657: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:07:10 AM

Could be as his lawyer Giuliani has a lot of dirt on him and not firing him keeps that dirt from going public

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#267658: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:14:26 AM

Further on Steve King, another problem for him were attempts to form bonds to European far right movements. And that (apparently) unlike Paul Ryan Kevin McCarthy isn't willing to put up with his drama.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267659: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:18:13 AM

So that’s what Mueller had Cohen plead guilty to lying to Congress about.

Or to quote the Merriam-Webster’s dictionary’s word of the day:

'Suborn'
  • specifically: to induce to commit perjury
  • broadly: to induce secretly to do an unlawful thing

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267660: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:22:40 AM

Also, does this count as Witness Intimidation?

Kevin Corke, @Fox News “Don’t forget, Michael Cohen has already been convicted of perjury and fraud, and as recently as this week, the Wall Street Journal has suggested that he may have stolen tens of thousands of dollars....” Lying to reduce his jail time! Watch father-in-law!

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#267661: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:30:13 AM

Could be as his lawyer Giuliani has a lot of dirt on him and not firing him keeps that dirt from going public
That didn't stop Trump from firing several of his past lawyers during the past two years, though. I think. Some of them left on their own, but I could've sworn he fired at least one.

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#267662: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:39:55 AM

Some things will never not be strange.

Food stereotypes in general are stupid. Like, racists make jokes about fried chicken and watermelon 'cause them there black people, they sure do love fried chicken and watermelon.

But.

Like.

Do you know who else likes fried chicken and watermelon? Everybody. Everybody likes fried chicken and watermelon. Fried chicken and watermelon are delicious. I'm white as the driven snow and I love me some Popeye's. It's so f*cking hypocritical to be like "LOL those black folks and their fried chicken" while you're standing in line at KFC.

Which is a shame.

They should have just gone with it. After all, it's no less dirty than Mitch's usual activities.

If we accept this logic as SOP, then the Both Siders become right. We should not aspire to be just as crooked, grotesque, and ugly as Mitch McConnell, because he is a terrible baseline for acceptable behavior.

How has Trump not fired Giuliani yet?

Who else will take the job? When you're as reviled among lawyers as Trump is and nearly all competent professionals have already refused you, you take what you can get.

Trump's options aren't "Hire Giuliani or hire a much more capable lawyer". His options are "Hire Giuliani or just don't have a lawyer at all."

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#267663: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:47:25 AM

Plus there's the possiblity that Trump thinks Guliani is doing a great job

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#267664: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:48:37 AM

I don't like watermelon, it's super bland. tongue

And there's nothing dirty about following proper procedure, it's the Republicans' own fault for not paying attention.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#267665: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:49:14 AM

Oldish Tweet, but really concerning about gerrymandering reform.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#267666: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:50:53 AM

I mean, Trump could probably dig up some lawyer, somewhere. And I doubt he'd be willing to accept that people don't want to work for him. I imagine that Trump just likes Giuliani. That sort of bizarre bravado is right up his alley

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#267667: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:54:57 AM

wild mass guessTrump never actually hired Giuliani. He just showed up one day spouting absurd legal advice to Fox News and they ran with it.wild mass guess

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#267668: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:59:18 AM

[up]x2 Nah, Trump has been displeased with Giuliani on numerous occasions.

Trump’s frustration with Sessions has even caused him to turn on Giuliani. Over the weekend, Trump blamed Giuliani for the entire Russia probe. According to a person to whom the conversation was described, Trump loudly said to his lawyer: “It’s your fault! I offered you attorney general, but you insisted on being secretary of state. Had I picked you none of this would be happening.” (The White House declined to comment.)

Edited by speedyboris on Jan 18th 2019 at 10:00:53 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#267669: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:01:22 AM

[up][up]wild mass guess And, since he didn't actually hire Rudy, Trump's thinking "Score, free lawyer!"wild mass guess

Edited by sgamer82 on Jan 18th 2019 at 9:01:36 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267670: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:02:33 AM

And now I'm imagining Trump catching him in a pokemon ball

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#267671: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:16:35 AM

Too bad for Trump Rudy's the lawyer equivalent of a Luvdisc.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267672: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:25:03 AM

he's a shiny Luvdisc!

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#267673: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:25:05 AM

Not a magikarp, or does Magikarp Power ruin the analogy?

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#267674: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:25:34 AM

Level 100 magikarp.

Useless and not as adorable as a luvdisc.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#267675: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:45:12 AM

Also, Luvdisc scales are insanely valuable. Or were. Haven't played in a while.

Actually, if they were valuable and aren't anymore, that would be the perfect metaphor. Something that once was valued and seen as useful, if niche, and is now seen as worthless.

But really, I think Trump keeps Rudy around because he lives in the past. Trump wants to be seen in the 1990's perception of him, before he was just a punchline. When he was, once upon a time, a respected businessman. Giuliani is pretty similar. There was a time when he was a damn hero. Acknowledging that he's become a laughingstock and people now see through him implicitly means that they can do the same to him.

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