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SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#267476: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:05:11 PM

Also:

while people who self identify as Social Justice Warriors are generally hurtful assholes using a progressive cause as a cover for their real desire to abuse others.

Do you have any actual proof of this? Because this is a pretty damn big accusation you're making, and to be honest, I've never even seen anyone identify themselves as an SJW, so this is the first I've ever heard about that as well.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267477: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:08:37 PM

[up][up] And I know how it should start, since it's the perfect foreshadowing for just how dumb this thing is. (from an NYT Dec. 30, 2017)

During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.

A drunk Papadopoulos loudly bragging to an Australian diplomat in a London Bar about how Russia is helping their campaign. How much better of a cold opening could you get?

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 16th 2019 at 4:16:11 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#267478: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:09:15 PM

It's incredibly rare, it's basically only a thing that happens on social media (even then it happens at nothing like the frequency of other abuse), where yes you can see people sending death threats and racial abuse at people while claiming to be doing so in the name of social justice.

I refuse to humour such people by pretending they actually care about social justice, they're petty bullies trying to find cover.

Edited by Silasw on Jan 16th 2019 at 9:10:05 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#267479: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:12:19 PM

I like to think of that as the separation between Good Tumblr and Bad Tumblr.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#267480: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:13:43 PM

R.I.P. Porn Tumblr, the third side.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#267481: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:16:22 PM

I'm a Social Justice Warrior. I proudly identify as one.

I own a t-shirt and everything.

(20th level Social Justice Warrior)

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#267482: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:23:09 PM

I prefer to think of myself as a Social Justice Bard because of my theater history.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:23:25 AM

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#267483: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:31:18 PM

When I think of the negative type of SJW, I always think of left-wing Moral Guardians. The only difference between them and their conservative counterparts is a (mostly) sympathetic Freudian Excuse. They're what I'd like to call "Social Justice Whiners". Of course, that's the strawman version, and I hope most equality advocates don't fall into this stereotype.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#267484: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:32:57 PM

People who call themselves Social Justice Warriors, in my experience, do so to mock the people who use it as an insult.

Like if you're going to be called that for having views anywhere on the left, you might as well call yourself one. So I get why people do it.

But I'm not talking about the ones that hurl abuse.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#267485: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:39:39 PM

I get why people do it, but self identifying with people who send abuse and death threats is generally a bad idea.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#267486: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:43:53 PM

I also think that general discussion of the "SJW" topics is not for this thread.

Here, Trump is hemorrhaging support because of the shutdown. Slow but steady.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#267487: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:44:44 PM

The way you speak makes it sound like the average SJW-identifier partakes in such behavior, even though all we have is your anecdotal evidence which you yourself describe as "rare."

It sounds like saying "we should stop identifying as feminists because TER Fs."

[up] Neat, but nothing to get too excited about. He'll get the bounceback when he ends it, but hopefully it'll cause him to, you know, end it to get said bounce.

If he does cave before the Dems, how do you think he's going to spin this? He keeps digging himself deeper and I can't fathom a way that even he could spin this as a win for himself. I'd imagine he'll just jump on and exaggerate whatever concession the Dems do make and talk about how the 5.7 bil for the wall was just a negotiating ploy, and that this (smaller amount of money for something saner) was what he really wanted.

Edited by Larkmarn on Jan 16th 2019 at 4:49:59 AM

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#267488: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:54:27 PM

I've never heard SJW used by anyone but an alt-righter or someone mocking alt-righters.

Honestly it's an interesting slur because the people it's aimed at tend to find it more amusing than offensive, like "why yes, I do care a lot about social justice." So basically all it does is mark the user as "the sort of person who thinks this is an insult" without actually offending anyone.

Edited by Clarste on Jan 16th 2019 at 1:54:39 AM

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#267489: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:55:16 PM

He could try and make himself look like the good guy for compromising, ending the shutdown to help "real" Americans, while claiming that Democrats care more about "criminals" rushing over the border. So much so that they're willing to make you suffer a shutdown.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#267490: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:56:28 PM

[up]Yeah, it's probably going to be something like that.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#267491: Jan 16th 2019 at 1:57:06 PM

Too late to be seen as the goodguy at this point,even his supporters probably end up thinking "What a idiot"

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#267492: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:00:18 PM

I've never heard SJW used by anyone but an alt-righter or someone mocking alt-righters. Honestly it's an interesting slur because the people it's aimed at tend to find it more amusing than offensive, like "why yes, I do care a lot about social justice." So basically all it does is mark the user as "the sort of person who thinks this is an insult" without actually offending anyone.

I've seen a fair bit of this. Most recently, a You Tuber I follow made a video urging people to vote in the midterms, giving actual examples of tangible damage done by Trump and the Republicans, while also being clear to not blame any specific voter or not.

The video was still flooded with dislikes, and on comments some other videos he had on other things, there were a bunch of comments complaining about how he's become a "villain" and "just like Tumblr" which was just so...

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 4:04:18 AM

Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#267493: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:38:06 PM

We just had a hilarious video demonstrating what exactly is a SJW. Why are we still discussing stuff like 'who uses the word' and 'how frequent SJW are'? It's a thing, we know it when we see it, it's obnoxious, lots of people misapply it as a slur in the same way that lots of people use 'fascist' incorrectly, to mean anyone to the left or right of my position. They're still legit terms describing real things.

One of my best friends is an SJW. She gets angry at white rappers for rapping while white, and at any rapper who isn't using rap to 'fight oppression'. She thinks the Clintons are implicated in a paedo ring. She can be a pain to be around. But she's very active in a number of charities helping vulnerable people very very tangibly, so I love her very much.

Peter Coffin argues that SJW, and their politics built around shaming, offense, and exclusion, are one among many groups emerging as a result of capitalist cultivated identity and thought leadership, of incentive systems that reward takedowns and outrage as methods to seize attention, which is the currency in the marketplace of ideas, and also literal currency in the forms of views, ad revenue, and patrons. The following video shows a few good examples of what we're discussing.

[down] Sorry, I missed that. Which posters are mod?

Edited by Oruka on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:43:11 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#267494: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:38:56 PM

Guys a mod just told us to drop the SJW discussion from this thread. If someone wants to pick a thread to move it to I’ll reply there.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#267495: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:49:45 PM

The mod in question is Septimus Heap, though he could've "put the hat on" to turn his post pink, since that indicates a moderator posting something in that specific capacity rather than as a normal poster.

As for an appropiate thread, I've been direct to Politics in Media.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#267496: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:54:49 PM

Let's observe the evolution of the GOP along the years through the evolving... opinion pieces... of Ben Shapiro, Mr. "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings".

Speaking of his catchphrase, Natalie Wynn did a beautiful breakdown of his obsession with misgendering people. But that's a topic for another thread.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#267497: Jan 16th 2019 at 7:26:05 PM

CNN is breaking that Rudy Giuliani, while still contending that Trump himself didn't collude with Russia, he can't be sure if others members of the campaign didn't.

Is there another reveal coming from Mueller soon, or did Giuliani just make his biggest mistake yet?

EDIT: Here's an article: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-cnntv/index.html

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Jan 16th 2019 at 11:28:38 AM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#267498: Jan 16th 2019 at 7:28:11 PM

Nothing Giuliani says is under oath so none of it matters.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#267499: Jan 16th 2019 at 7:36:14 PM

Except for making you want to dash your brains out on the nearest wall.

Every time I see that quote where he said there where no radical Islamic terrorism acts on US soil before Obama...

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#267500: Jan 16th 2019 at 7:40:00 PM

[up]x4 Well, that last bit proposes a rather terrifying possibility.

Oh God! Natural light!

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