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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The worse scenario, of course, is that whoever comes after Trump is even more far right and dangerous.
Edited by speedyboris on Jan 16th 2019 at 1:13:33 PM
" while people who self identify as Social Justice Warriors are generally hurtful assholes using a progressive cause as a cover for their real desire to abuse others. "
I disagree, sometimes people are well meaning but assholes ether way, specially because the feel knowing this thing make them better, is a something it happen with every group: religious people by knowing the truth, atheist by thinking other are foolish,etc.
Is clique thinking.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
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...Okay, that video was hilarious.
But in seriousness, no one really uses it in good faith anymore, the people who would actually use it and mean it largely stopped using it and it is mostly used by Right-Wingers to mean "someone who is fine with diversity in media"
Edited by AzurePaladin on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:21:14 PM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerOn the internet there are a bunch of people who are genuinely obnoxious and throw around a lot of criticism that they can't necessarily back up. People who also think the fact Neo-Nazis listed as what Brujah can Embrace is why the very liberal Paradox Games is secretly a front for the Alt-Right. They also seem to think that "internet activism" of complaining about movies or video games is actively making the world a better place versus, I dunno, working at soup kitchen.
BE THAT AS IT MAY, it's usually a term for shutting down any criticism of the racism, sexism, or bad representation of any piece of media. Generally, a person who uses the term is just butthurt that someone suggests maybe the women of Soul Caliber could not look all look like lingerie models.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 16th 2019 at 11:30:10 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.It's mostly thought to be used by alt-righters (and other right-wingers) these days but back before the group crystallized it was also commonly used by people with no strong particular allegiance but who "wanted to enjoy their media in peace", and not used to people looking into the deeper implications of stories. (Though obviously these people still had political biases, just without a well-developed ideology or commitment).
I often got the impression earlier on that social justice advocates were often viewed as basically the equivalent of an evangelical ("It's fine that you believe that and all, but I don't really care so could you knock it off?") or at best an environmentalist ("There might even be some truth to what you're saying but you're being really obnoxious/self-righteous so that kills any desire I have of paying you any attention"). To an extent I think that is still true but more people seem to be at least vaguely more reasonable about media representation now, so it's more likely to be used by someone with an active political agenda.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Jan 16th 2019 at 3:36:19 PM
I was one of them who compare earlier internet activism to evangelicals, specially because some of their argument really some like a gospel in many way(the concept of privilige for example sometimes sound like a sin: something it exist, buy you cant see unless you have the right mindset that make you agree with the concept behorehand and they can tell you...at lenght), well that and the whole "that is bad and you should feel bad" implication was throw around back them.
I mean, people seen to forget internet activism have change A LOT in a few years.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Events in how the internet functioned in a large way, at least in geek circles, happened. Because the anti-SJW side became its own religion as well as formed the basis of the Geek Branch of the Alt-Right.
Before, SJW was used as a form of tone police. "You're being way too serious about the fact there's a lot of cleavage in this game."
Afterward, it was fueled with hate and anger to the point of being a genuine slur.
I won't mention one specific event (because it wasn't JUST that forbidden to discuss event) but it was a good measuring point in terms of how this twist happened.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 16th 2019 at 11:44:20 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Yeah gamergate was when internet doucheness stop being just a regular glinch and become is own force with motivations and was when many of the SLW or progresive internet star to devolpt better argument.
And today it show, in fact for all the alt right claim it was the left who make the right that way I will said is the other way around: internet progresim have jaded A LOT and is not so willing to expect people to listen anymore.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"The landscape gender-wise in geek circle commentary has also changed a good deal. Female gaming commentators are almost the equal in number of male commentators as are playthroughs.
It's made the "boys are the only real geeks" thing the much more outlier misogynist position it is.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.For good discussions about SJW-type issues, I highly recommend Contra Points. She is an absolute treasure
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Yeah, back them progresiveness was to hold opinion of problematic issues and rant to it sometimes, after GG and Trump, the progresive left or SWJ or whatever have become more and activist presure group and generely respond back to the alt right and trolls.
It help that last years a lot of "creed" the alt right got defleted after Milo douchiness got it fired and charlestoneville prove they were a bunch of psychos, with the rise of left youtuber it seen the tide is slowy turing back against them.
Edited by unknowing on Jan 16th 2019 at 4:01:31 PM
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not""Social Justice Warriors" is such a great name for a Saturday Morning Cartoon starring a diverse cast of heroes that whenever I hear someone complaining about them, I always read it in the same voice as one might condemn the G.I. Joes or Inspector Gadget.
"Curse you, Social Justice Warriors! CUUUUURSE YOOOOOOU!"
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She is. She taught me so much.
I mean, Trump is the person you point to when people tell you Captain Planet villains are unrealistic.
Edited by Oruka on Jan 16th 2019 at 12:07:33 PM
You know, at this point, all those Trump jokes on shows like Friends or whatever are a lot more Harsher in Hindsight
The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.Just for fun, does anyone have ideas about casting in inevitable movie that will be made about this?
Edited by megaeliz on Jan 16th 2019 at 3:56:57 PM

This immediately came to mind: