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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267151: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:04:51 AM

My idea of his comeuppance is him losing the 2020 elections in a huge landslide victory for the Democats,because then he would join the shortest serving presidents in history and that would likely wound his ego

Plus once he comes out of the White House I expect all manner of things to happen to him that being President would normally protect him from

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#267152: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:06:39 AM

Unless there is some massive new revelation in the next few years I doubt anything is going to happen to him, and it doesn’t seem like there will be.

He’ll just go down in history as a unpopular and incompetent president.

Edited by archonspeaks on Jan 15th 2019 at 9:07:03 AM

They should have sent a poet.
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#267153: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:07:20 AM

[up][up] Right.

At the very least, I don't see him winning re-election, at least not likely

Edited by MrHellboy on Jan 15th 2019 at 11:07:38 AM

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#267154: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:26:11 AM

Something of interest: Mueller is not ready to move on to sentencing for Rick Gates yet, because evidently he still has a lot more information to give:

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1085213762255228934

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267155: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:26:46 AM

He's given a lot of people very reasons not to vote for him,but one should not be quick to assume anything until the election actually happens

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267156: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:29:20 AM

Then I guess the big question is, what is the endgame here?

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 15th 2019 at 12:29:56 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#267157: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:32:22 AM

Dusting half of the electorate?

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#267158: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:34:12 AM

[up][up] To whose endgame are you referring?

[up] Please, Trump is no Thanos. At least Thanos had a plan. Trump has none

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267159: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:35:39 AM

He's asking what happens if Trump is voted out,what then?

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267160: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:36:18 AM

[up][up] I mean to the investigation. It doesn’t look like it’s planning to wrap up any time soon, but what are they working towards?

Manafort was a very public focus for a while, but since that’s wrapping up, what now?

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 15th 2019 at 12:37:32 PM

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#267161: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:38:27 AM

I'll just be grateful if we get him out of office on January 20, 2021. Anything better than that is just a bonus

[up] Actually, I forget at the moment what Gates' role in the administration was. Anyone remember?

Edited by MrHellboy on Jan 15th 2019 at 11:39:08 AM

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#267162: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:39:10 AM

Strengthening the institutions of our democracy? Preventing future election interference? Rooting out any actual collaborators in the government?

I understand that individual punishment delivered against Trump may sound appealing, but it’s unlikely to happen and probably wouldn’t serve much purpose anyways.

They should have sent a poet.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#267163: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:44:01 AM

It’s from the Daily Beast, but I think it’s worth mentioning.

The Special Counsel’s Office and federal prosecutors in Manhattan are scrutinizing a meeting involving former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, one-time National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, and dozens of foreign officials, according to three sources familiar with the investigations.

The breakfast event, which was first reported by The Daily Sabah, a pro-government Turkish paper, took place at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. at 8.30 a.m. on Jan. 18, 2017—two days before President Donald Trump’s inauguration. About 60 people were invited, including diplomats from governments around the world, according to those same sources.

The breakfast has come under scrutiny by federal prosecutors in Manhattan as part of their probe into whether the Trump inaugural committee misspent funds and if donors tried to buy influence in the White House. The existence of that probe was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. The Special Counsel’s Office is also looking at the breakfast as part of its investigation into whether foreigners contributed money to the Trump inaugural fund and PAC by possibly using American intermediaries, as first reported by The New York Times. Robert Mueller’s team has asked Flynn about the event, according to two sources familiar with the Special Counsel’s Office questioning.

Nunes, who has not been accused of any wrongdoing, has been perhaps Trump’s most important congressional ally over the last two years. After serving on Trump’s transition team, Nunes became a vigorous defender of the president against federal and congressional inquiries. The California Republican pushed a misleading memo alleging misconduct in the FBI investigation of Trump’s associates that the bureau said contained “material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

Now Nunes—a key figure behind the right-wing counter narrative that Trump is at the mercy of a “Deep State” conspiracy—finds at least one meeting that he himself attended under the special counsel’s scrutiny.

The breakfast gathering took place the night after the Global Chairman’s Dinner—one of the inauguration’s most exclusive events, set up so the incoming president can meet the foreign diplomatic corps. Some of those who attended the dinner also attended the Trump Hotel breakfast, two individuals with direct knowledge of the events told The Daily Beast. Country officials invited to the breakfast included Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Israel, Lithuania, Estonia, Denmark, Japan, Angola and others. Former Kazakh Ambassador Kairat Umarov attended the breakfast, as did two senior Qatari officials.

Pluvious Group, a consultancy that raised money for the Republican National Committee and the Trump campaign, helped with the event’s organization, according to two sources with knowledge of the breakfast. The group did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

“If you’re a prosecutor, all of the right players are there,” said former federal prosecutor Paul Pelletier, referring to the breakfast. “In a lot of ways breakfasts like this are totally normal. It happens all the time in Washington. So, they wouldn’t be investigating it if they weren’t following the money. The big question would be who is paying for it? It’s got to be part of the broader scheme of who is trying to use money to influence the White House.”

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#267164: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:44:03 AM

[up][up]Yes, it's important to remember that Trump isn't actually the source of the USA's problems (though he's certainly making them worse).

He's just a particularly ugly orange malignant tumor, a symptom of the cancer plaguing the USA. The Ugly American (President).

Edited by M84 on Jan 16th 2019 at 1:44:45 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#267165: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:51:58 AM

It's sad, but I think the fact that he served trashy fast food to the teams last night might win him the states that, (because of our fucked up electoral system) voted for him. Even though people are reporting it, his fanbase is reporting it as "they hate it cause it wasn't vegan blogger food!!1!" and his fanbase makes up enough flyover states that it might win this election. sad

For everyone who thinks this is panicing no I'm not, I just refuse to underestimate the dumbness of the american public.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#267166: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:56:38 AM

This isn't really going to win over anyone new. Not enough to matter. All it will do is make the Trump voter fanbase cult even more devoted to him. And they were going to vote for him in 2020 anyway. And that's assuming they even remember this come election time in 2020.

Panicking because Trump gave a football team a bunch of Big Macs isn't really a good idea.

Edited by M84 on Jan 16th 2019 at 1:58:39 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#267167: Jan 15th 2019 at 9:59:41 AM

People who haven't ditched Trump by now will never waver in their support for him.

You need to work around them because you can't put a dent in that voting bloc in the slightest.

Oh really when?
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#267168: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:02:47 AM

[up][up]Not panicking, just acknowledging that his fanbase makes up a lot of the right areas, so not getting my hopes up.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#267169: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:03:03 AM

Yeah, I mean, nothing against a burger for a meal, but if you have guests, the least you can do is serving high quality burgers.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267170: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:04:44 AM

At least he didn't try some home cooking..

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#267171: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:06:27 AM

If you have guests, the least you can do is not order a bunch of fast food burgers in advance and plonk them on a table. Especially the fish ones.

Cold fried fish doesn't make for a particularly good sandwich filling, as I know from experience.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#267172: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:07:51 AM

[up][up][up]Trump's idea of a "good" artisan burger would probably include a lot of tacky edible gold. No thanks.

Like I said, Mickey D's was probably the best that team could have hope for from him.

[up]Yeah, he could have at least got them piping hot Quarter Pounders. Cold Filet O' Fish sandwiches? <shudders in disgust>

Edited by M84 on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:09:33 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#267173: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:09:13 AM

Trump would serve them the Nothing burger,all bun and nothing in between

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#267174: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:09:24 AM

2020 will be won or lost in the Midwest. Without those states, Trump doesn't have a path to 270 E Vs. Red states can be written off as far as the Presidential campaign goes, though not for local races.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#267175: Jan 15th 2019 at 10:10:03 AM

[up][up]And the bun is cheap and moldy.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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