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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266876: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:51:05 AM

Gabbard would probably be a Justice Democrat primary target today if she hadn't made such a public endorsement of Bernie in 2015.

Almost certainly, which is why I don't respect Justice Dem's. Someone like Gabbard should not be accepted just because they said nice things about Sanders, it's supposed to be about principles, not personal loyalty.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#266877: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:58:21 AM

Hell, I'd take Manchin over Gabbard, at least he doesn't have awful overseas connections to my knowledge.

Great list there Spartan BTW.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#266878: Jan 13th 2019 at 11:00:52 AM

And you just know that Gabbard's going to try and make a mess in the primaries. Accusing her opponents of being establishment shills and what not, stoking anger. She's also going to divert the DNC's funds in the process.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 3:01:19 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266879: Jan 13th 2019 at 11:00:55 AM

Hell, I'd take Manchin over Gabbard, at least he doesn't have awful overseas connections to my knowledge.

Quite, which really says something.

Great list there Spartan BTW.

Thanks smile

I've bookmarked it because it's such a useful weapon against the people who want to pretend that Gabbard is in any way progressive or Progressive.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266880: Jan 13th 2019 at 11:01:25 AM

I think you guys will appreciate this, since I know a lot of you are fond of calling Mc Connell “Evil Turtle”

Again, this would offend Turtle/Tortoise fans. I'd prefer to call McConnell a Faceless from XCOM 2. If you don't know what that is, look it up, and you'll agree.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266881: Jan 13th 2019 at 11:05:53 AM

Hopefully Gabbard makes just enough noise in the presidential primary that someone decides to run against her in the congressional primary and is able to win.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#266882: Jan 13th 2019 at 11:10:38 AM

That list kind of makes me chuckle a little, since it's a bunch of actually cited stuff and then "Tulsi Gabbard is actually to the right of Hillary Clinton!! [lol][lol]tonguecool" with Bernie at the far left of the Purity Scale.

Edited by RedSavant on Jan 13th 2019 at 2:10:53 PM

It's been fun.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266883: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:20:45 PM

That list kind of makes me chuckle a little, since it's a bunch of actually cited stuff and then "Tulsi Gabbard is actually to the right of Hillary Clinton!! [lol][lol]tonguecool" with Bernie at the far left of the Purity Scale.

Yeah, that bit was silly.

Though with that said it's still a useful means of attack against the Berniebro's who like her.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#266884: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:31:00 PM

So if I'm reading this right, Sanders' 2016 supporters will be split between those who backed him out of personal loyalty maybe going towards Gabbard, not a sure thing, while genuine leftists will probably go towards someone with bona fide progressive credentials. I'm presuming Warren.

How is Warren doing right now anyway?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266885: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:33:35 PM

So if I'm reading this right, Sanders' 2016 supporters will be split between those who backed him out of personal loyalty maybe going towards Gabbard, not a sure thing, while genuine leftists will probably go towards someone with bona fide progressive credentials. I'm presuming Warren.

The former is probably a vocal minority, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is Russian backing to muddy the waters (especially considering she likes their proxy Assad, that gives them even more reason to like her).

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#266886: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:42:17 PM

See, I think that Sanders' is very much aware of how sought after his endorsement will be among the left-wing of the Democratic party. And I would think that his ego and ambition mandates that he wants to pick a "successor" who isn't going to get rolled over in the first three contests or so. That probably rules out Gabbard.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#266887: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:45:08 PM

[up] Of course, I'd consider it fairly likely that he makes a break for the nomination himself instead of endorsing anyone.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#266888: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:55:25 PM

In which case Gabbard's candidacy loses any meaning and the real issue would be the their base's vote splitting between Sanders and Warren.

Edited by Parable on Jan 13th 2019 at 12:56:04 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266889: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:56:52 PM

I really hope Sanders doesn't run, beyond all the other issues we've established the fact that Warren is a confirmed candidate means that his candidacy could split the vote and risk someone like Bloomberg winning <shudders>.

He should just stay out and play kingmaker instead of letting his pride get in the way.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#266890: Jan 13th 2019 at 12:57:33 PM

His best bet is trying to play kingmaker, and leveraging that into a Cabinet role if they win or get the VP slot.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266891: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:02:15 PM

Yeah Bernie himself has lost a lot of space already, with both Warren and Gabbard running there’s a divided left field and a divided isolationist field. I wonder if Gabbard spoke with Bernie before announcing her run, as what the hell is she doing if Bernie also runs? If Bernie doesn’t run she makes sense as someone try to take his spot, but if she runs she goes from being one of his people to being an opponent.

All Gabbard has going for her is that she’s a Bernie fanatic, but then why is she running in a contest that Bernie himself is expected to run in?

Unless she thinks Bernie isn’t going to run, in that case her actions make sense, but if Bernie is smart he won’t endorse her, she’s too likely to loose.

I’m curious as to who Cortez will endorse, she’s probably got some strong pull with primary voters at this point.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#266892: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:06:01 PM

Again, this would offend Turtle/Tortoise fans. I'd prefer to call Mc Connell a Faceless from XCOM 2. If you don't know what that is, look it up, and you'll agree.

Hey man, Faceless are actually useful! You can't make the best item in the game without them.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#266893: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:10:31 PM

You know, the early primaries in Iowa, New Hampshire, California and so will weed out a lot of candidates.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#266894: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:11:18 PM

Probably worth noting that Warren has actually already hired a number of Sanders' campaign staff.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266895: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:12:49 PM

I suspect that a number of people will get weeded out before any voting happens, hell people will probably drop out before any debates even happen.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#266896: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:36:58 PM

I unapologetically would say I'd love for Sanders to win but that's not the face of the Democratic Party now.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#266897: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:37:47 PM

confession,when people refer to 'the evil turtle' I have no idea who they're talking about

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#266899: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:52:19 PM

Cocaine Mitch.

He's basically the Mr. Potter of the Republican Party.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#266900: Jan 13th 2019 at 1:53:37 PM

For a moment I thought you were complimenting him by comparing him to Harry Potter.

Leviticus 19:34

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