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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#266851: Jan 13th 2019 at 5:13:42 AM

[up][up]Since unsecure phone and cellphone signals are EZ PZ Lemon Squeezy to tap and eavesdrop, Trump using his regular phone over a secure one is a fairly severe security breach.

I do however pity greatly whoever has to listen to his voice and his incoherent bullshit for useful information.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266852: Jan 13th 2019 at 5:28:16 AM

Most call probably go though the secure landline, the risk is that Trump’s phone could have malware on it more than that he’s making important calls with it. He mainly uses it to tweet.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#266853: Jan 13th 2019 at 6:40:31 AM

if [Bernie] were to win the nomination, would you grit your teeth and vote for him against Trump, or would you stay home?
What kind of a dumb question is that? Of course I'm voting for him if he does, somehow, win the 2020 nomination. Every single candidate mentioned so far, even Bloomberg, would make a better President than Trump. While I don't think Bernie is the best D candidate in the ring so far (honestly I think he's in the bottom half) he's still a damn sight better than the KKKlandidate who won in 2016.

[up] I would be quite surprised if Trump's phone wasn't regularly getting infected with malware; I also hope, really really hope, that the White House has a couple of dedicated IT guys who do nothing but scrub Trump's phones to remove said malware whenever they can get the phone out of his grubby little fingers.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#266854: Jan 13th 2019 at 6:52:25 AM

I would not want to be one who tells the President he has to hand over his phone for a Malware inspection,god knows what he's got on there

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 13th 2019 at 2:52:43 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#266855: Jan 13th 2019 at 6:56:57 AM

I hope whoever has to touch that phone wears gloves while doing it.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#266856: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:09:50 AM

I just wish Twitter would ban Trump. Then I'd want to watch the red-caps trying to talk to their leader and having to wait. We now know despite all the talk of "let him hang himself with his own words" that there are hundreds of thousands of people stupid enough to buy it. So that would be better.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#266857: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:11:15 AM

Banning Trump from Twitter would sink their stocks probably

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#266858: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:17:28 AM

Eh, not by much. Reddit banned r/physical removal and had r/the_donald leave for a few days and they are doing fine, even if they came crawling back they didn't seem to lose a lot of revenue.

I wish Twitter was as left wing as it's haters say, then with less places to unite we could maybe have a functioning government again.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#266859: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:31:01 AM

I mean, the problem with that line of argument is that banning Trump from Twitter would literally be shutting down the primary means through which the President of the United States makes official policy statements. That's not a can of worms you want to open lightly. At the very least, you'd need airtight proof that he a) broke Twitter's rules and b) the rules that he broke is one that Twitter normally enforces.

Edited by Gilphon on Jan 13th 2019 at 12:32:32 PM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#266860: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:31:54 AM

Twitter has explained why they won't. What Trump says counts as news, essentially.

Leviticus 19:34
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#266861: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:32:17 AM

Twitter is not a public entity and is thus perfectly entitled to not be used for making official announcements.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266862: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:40:31 AM

Twitter’s rules allow them to ban someone for any reason, it’s not a can of worms. Likewise Twitter as a private company has no obligation to repeate government statements.

Now twitter won’t do it, it would be like removing the Russian bot networks, the stalkers or the abusers, that’s Twitter’s entire userbase, Twitter is built to make money from hatred, abuse, stalking, lies and bots.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#266863: Jan 13th 2019 at 9:50:31 AM

One thing which a lot of Alt-right assholes miss is the fact that the very private company rules they champion mean that as private companies, they can kick out anyone they want at any time for any reason.

Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from being escorted from the Nightclub because the Nightclub is owned by Dave not the US government.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266864: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:00:44 AM

What kind of a dumb question is that? Of course I'm voting for him if he does, somehow, win the 2020 nomination. Every single candidate mentioned so far, even Bloomberg, would make a better President than Trump. While I don't think Bernie is the best D candidate in the ring so far (honestly I think he's in the bottom half) he's still a damn sight better than the KK Klandidate who won in 2016.

Honestly, the only candidate I probably wouldn't vote for would be Gabbard, if I wanted to see an Islamophobe President who has shady ties to foreign dictators then I would just turn on the TV.

I'm all for voting for the lesser evil but I don't really see any reason to believe that she qualifies as that.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#266865: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:05:48 AM

I'm not saying I would vote for Bloomberg IN THE PRIMARY but even if you think he's not nearly left enough for the Democrats (I feel the same way), the simple fact is actually knows his hands from his ass which would change America's status greatly.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266866: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:07:27 AM

Agreed, he would be a lesser evil compared to Trump.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#266867: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:12:57 AM

[up][up][up]Ehh. Gabbard's certainly bad, because as you said, Islamophobe with shady ties foreign dictators, but given, as you also said, that's also true of Trump, she'd still represent an improvement over him; he after all has many flaws that she doesn't share.

Like, she'd be my last choice in Primaries, but I'd have to learn a lot more that's bad about her for her to de-throne Trump as the greater of two evils.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#266868: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:19:55 AM

What would Gabbard even bring to the table in the primaries that Warren, Castro, and all the others don't already have and then some?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266869: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:19:55 AM

[up][up]I would say she's that bad.

Here's a twitter thread with all the ways she's awful, it's not an exaggeration to say that she's worse then literally every Democrat.

I'm willing to tolerate a lot when it comes to opposing Donald Trump, but Gabbard? She's too far.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jan 13th 2019 at 1:20:07 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266870: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:19:57 AM

Gabbard would also do huge damage to the Democratic Party by tainting it for years with her touch. If she lost the party could rethink itself and adjust, if she won that’d be it, the Democratic Party would probably be lost to islamaphobia, homophobia and dictator apologia for a generation.

She’d make a strong argument for voting third party because not only would a third party candidate be a better choice but a vote for them would represent a strong statement that such open bigotry and fetishisation of dictatorship is not acceptable.

Now here’s the tricky question, if Sanders was the candidate and picked Gabbard as his VP? What then? Vote for Sanders then push for Gabbard to be impeached and replaced with someone reasonable?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#266871: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:20:45 AM

What would Gabbard even bring to the table in the primaries that Warren, Castro, and all the others don't already have and then some?

Based on what I've seen from her supporters/apologists?

She's pretty and said nice things about Saint Bernie.

Neither of which are very impressive things to bring to the table, thankfully, she has very little chance.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jan 13th 2019 at 1:21:30 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#266872: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:23:14 AM

What would Gabbard even bring to the table in the primaries that Warren, Castro, and all the others don't already have and then some?

Bigotry, dictator apologia and Sanders fetishisation.

For some people that’s a plus.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#266873: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:28:32 AM

I could actually see Sanders making Gabbard his VP candidate.

Blech.

If that happens and if it comes down to them vs. Trump and Pence, I'd still vote for them.

Then get very, very drunk.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 2:29:43 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#266874: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:35:37 AM

I think you guys will appreciate this, since I know a lot of you are fond of calling Mc Connell “Evil Turtle”

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#266875: Jan 13th 2019 at 10:48:56 AM

Gabbard would probably be a Justice Democrat primary target today if she hadn't made such a public endorsement of Bernie in 2015.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

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