Nov 2023 Mod notice:
There may be other, more specific, threads about some aspects of US politics, but this one tends to act as a hub for all sorts of related news and information, so it's usually one of the busiest OTC threads.
If you're new to OTC, it's worth reading the Introduction to On-Topic Conversations
and the On-Topic Conversations debate guidelines
before posting here.
Rumor-based, fear-mongering and/or inflammatory statements that damage the quality of the thread will be thumped. Off-topic posts will also be thumped. Repeat offenders may be suspended.
If time spent moderating this thread remains a distraction from moderation of the wiki itself, the thread will need to be locked. We want to avoid that, so please follow the forum rules
when posting here.
In line with the general forum rules, 'gravedancing' is prohibited here. If you're celebrating someone's death or hoping that they die, your post will get thumped. This rule applies regardless of what the person you're discussing has said or done.
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I still say that if Trump goes through with the idea of invoking a National Emergency to get his wall funding, impeachment proceedings would be the only logical recourse to that level of overreach.
And for those saying "Even he isn't dumb enough" - need I remind you just who we're discussing here? He's always been dumb enough - it's just whether he listens to his advisers or his ego, and the latter has a much stronger track record of being heeded.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Pretty sure you mean Mc Connell, worst of his name, breaker of democracy, perpetuator of racist misognynist homophobic transphobic xenophobic classist bullshit.
TRUMP and American Exceptionalism - Why we need to be Exceptional Again
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/american-exceptionalism-is-a-dangerous-myth.html
An interesting issue of Trump's politics misusing liberal talking points.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.So there is apparently a Federalist Society
that is apparently aiming to take over federal courts with its conservative, crack brained ideology.
![]()
![]()
That's arguably worse than anything Trump does. His personal actions are terrible, but can be fixed. The huge vacancies Mc Connell's engineered and is now focused on filling with hyper-conservative judges will last a generation.
Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Jan 5th 2019 at 10:51:37 AM
Federalist? As opposed to Jeffersonian?
"because the US is not at war": Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, and others would like to say hello. Detailed links below, all from Wikipedia.
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_Iraq_(201480%93present)
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(201580%93present)
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_Libya_(201580%93present)
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_North-West_Pakistan
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(200980%93present)#America_involvment_expanded
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(200180%93present)
Edited by Oruka on Jan 5th 2019 at 11:24:20 AM
The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."
Both conflicts remain open.
Also, how come those other ones are on without Congressional approval? How are they getting paid for? Is the CIA selling drugs
and weapons
on the side again?
Edited by Oruka on Jan 5th 2019 at 11:46:45 AM
The last formal declaration of war—rather than congress merely authorising military activity—was 1942, against the Axis-aligned states in eastern Europe. Neither the Korean nor Vietnam wars had any such declaration.
Therefore, the USA is not in a state of war and the president has none of the powers that results in.
Nitpicky, but that's legalese.
Edited by RainehDaze on Jan 5th 2019 at 7:46:43 PM

Trump calling federal workers Democrats is just him signaling to his base that the shutdown is alright. Most Republican voters probably think its great that Democrats are suffering.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.