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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah, I sort of have a feeling that Kentucky (along with Mississippi, Tennessee and maybe Alabama) would be States that always vote for Trump no matter what; even if Trump caused a new Great Depression in 2020, I'd be 100% certain to say "These 3(4) States will still give Trump their Electoral Votes" (And the only reason I put Alabama as a Maybe is because of Doug Jones maybe getting enough Minority and Women Voters to turn the State Blue).
Edited by DingoWalley1 on Jan 2nd 2019 at 9:02:48 AM
Yeah....and?
Trump ran on a campaign of how different he was from other Republicans. Trump is the basic apotheosis of the nativist Tea Party candidate. It was created by disgust and frustration with GOP corruption.
And, of course, GOP candidates co-opted them and ran rings about them.
Trump's popularity has nothing to do with Mitch's.
Which is yes, frustrating as hell for people who want to see them both destroyed but they're separate issues.
Mitch hopes his toadying Littlefingering will continue his power in Washington and Kentucky.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/01/02/day-713/
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/01/government-shutdown-update-trump-congress-1077368
A federal employees union filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration, because the partial government shutdown is illegally forcing more than 400,000 "essential" or "excepted" federal employees to work without pay. (CNN / Washington Post)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/federal-workers-sue-government/index.html
2/ House Democrats plan to vote on a bipartisan package of six Senate spending bills to reopen the government, as well as a stopgap measure to reopen the Department of Homeland Security at its current funding levels until February 8. The temporary funding measure would include the current $1.3 billion in border security money, which can be used for fencing and repairs of the current barriers. The move, however, lacks support from Senate Republicans and Trump. (CNN / NBC News)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/house-democrats-government-shutdown/index.html
Trump tried to convince people on Twitter that the Obamas had a 10-foot wall built around their family home in D.C. as a way of justifying why the U.S. should build a wall along the southern border with Mexico. Trump tweeted: "I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!" According to a neighbor (and all of the available photos of the residence), "There's a fence that goes along the front of the house, but it's the same as the other neighbors have." Another neighbor said the house is "100 percent visible from the street." (Washington Post / Rolling Stone)
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-obama-wall-773963/
John Kelly: Trump abandoned the idea of "a solid concrete wall early on in the administration." The outgoing chief of staff added that "the president still says 'wall,'" but he often means a "'barrier' or 'fencing,' now he's tended toward steel slats." Trump responded to Kelly's comments on Twitter, saying that the idea of an all-concrete border "WAS NEVER ABANDONED," asserting that the Border Patrol experts "prefer a Wall that is see through." (Los Angeles Times / New York Times)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/us/politics/john-kelly-exit-interview-wall.html
3/ A former Russian intelligence officer pressured Paul Manafort to pay back around $19 million he owed a Russian oligarch while he was running Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. Victor Boyarkin said Manafort "owed us a lot of money. And he was offering ways to pay it back." Less than two weeks before Trump accepted the Republican nomination, Manafort tried to offer "private briefings" about the presidential race to Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska to "get whole." Manafort sent the messages through his former business associate Konstantin Kilimnik. Both Boyarkin and Deripaska have been sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department. Boyarkin also said he was approached by Robert Mueller's office, which is investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, but he allegedly told investigators "to go dig a ditch." (Time / CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/29/politics/russian-former-spy-paul-manafort-trump-campaign/index.html
4/ Trump gave the military four months to "slowly" remove the 2,000 U.S. troops currently stationed in Syria. Two weeks ago Trump ordered the military to pull out in 30 days. Trump went on to complain about the lack fanfare over his decision to pull the troops out of Syria, tweeting that "If anybody but Donald Trump did what I did in Syria […] they would be a national hero." He added thathe is "just doing what I said I was going to do" during his presidential campaign. (New York Times / CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/trump-syria-isis/index.html
5/ Border Patrol agents fired tear gas at a group of 150 people in Mexico who were attempting to cross the border. CPB claimed that agents were not directly targeting the people who were attempting to cross the fence, but rather aiming upwind at another group of migrants who were allegedly throwing rocks at them. CPB detained 25 people, including two teenagers. This is the second known occasion during which U.S. agents used gas as a deterrent or dispersal tactic against migrants. A similar incident occurred in November 2018, into which Mexico later called on the U.S. to launch an investigation. (Reuters / Associated Press)
https://apnews.com/3f2a5aba2a8844dcb05816a24402739e
Trump blamed Democrats for the two Guatemalan children who died while in U.S. Border Patrol custody, claiming the deaths are "strictly the fault of the Democrats and their pathetic immigration policies." (Politico)
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/29/trump-child-migrants-deaths-democrats-border-wall-1076874
Notables.
New Jersey prosecutors have evidence that supervisors at Trump's Bedminster golf club may have committed federal immigration crimes. The FBI and Mueller have been involved in the in the inquiry. (New York Daily News)
Trump attacked retired Gen. Stanley Mc Chrystal, saying he "got fired like a dog" and that Mc Chrystal is a "big, dumb mouth." Prior to Trump's comments, Mc Chrystal said Trump is immoral, dishonest, and "I don't think he tells the truth." Mc Chrystal was relieved of his command in 2010 by then-President Obama after he made controversial comments about the Obama administration in a Rolling Stone article. (ABC News)
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-retired-army-gen-stanley-mcchrystal-big-dumb/story?id=60106026
Mitt Romney savaged Trump's leadership, saying he "has not risen to the mantle" of his office and his "words and actions have caused dismay around the world," in a Washington Post op-ed. Trump responded by tweeting: "I won big, and he didn't. He should be happy for all Republicans. Be a TEAM player & WIN!" (Washington Post / Politico / NBC News / CNN / The Guardian)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/02/politics/donald-trump-mitt-romney-oped/index.html
Trump averaged 15 false claims a day in 2018. When 2018 began, Trump had made 1,989 false and misleading claims. By the end of the year, Trump had accumulated more than 7,600 untruths during his presidency – or about 5,611 false or misleading claims in 2018 alone. (Washington Post)
Trump wished "the haters" and "the fake news media" a happy new year, urging them to "calm down and enjoy the ride." Trump's all-caps tweet went on to say that 2019 would be a "fantastic" year for anyone "not suffering from Trump derangement syndrome." (CBS News / NBC News)
Edited by sgamer82 on Jan 2nd 2019 at 7:08:42 AM
I think you guys are talking past each other because of a misunderstanding: the guy Kentucky hates according to Philip is Mitch Mc Connell. He wasn't talking about Trump.
They hate any given Democrat more, like with Utah? And Charles has said before that Mitch and his allies are more than capable of shutting down any potential threat in the primary...
Plus, Kentucky is one of those states that, even if Republican turnout is depressed, there just aren't enough Democrats to win state wide races without a Roy Moore level fuckup.
Edited by Rationalinsanity on Jan 2nd 2019 at 10:27:16 AM
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.He’s the Republican candidate and they would rather vote for a man they hate who is responsible for their neighbours dying, than for a democrat.
Why’s he the Republican candiate? Because he has total personal control over the state party.
Charles has explained all this many times to us.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranYeah, McConnell being very unpopular is not up for debate
. In fact, he is the most unpopular senator relatively speaking. We've known this for quite a while actually.
From what I understand Mc Connell wins because he has a lot of experience campaigning and because Kentucky is a deep red state.
The thing is if he wins, that means they DON'T hate him, they like him enough to keep putting him in, to have no one challange him, to not vote for his opponent.
That isn't hating him at all, they can claim to dislike him all they want, but words are usless compared to there actions, which say the exact opposite.
Pelosi has a message for Trump: 'Nothing for the wall'
"We can go through the back and forth," the incoming House speaker told NBC News in an exclusive interview. "No. How many more times can we say no?"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosi-has-message-trump-nothing-wall-n953996
Democrats to ask for 10 years of presidential tax returns in new bill
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/02/politics/trump-tax-returns-democrats/index.html
I'm guessing Imca's question is "why do conservative voters keep voting for Mc Connell in the primaries if they hate him so much?"
Disgusted, but not surprisedWhat's funny is that apparently not long ago, there was a very well-funded primary challenger backed by a lot of the GOP running against Mc Connell. He still lost. I wish I remembered what his name was...
34% do still approve of the turtle, that’s enough to win the primary and probably enough to outvote the few democrats that there are in the state.
The 54% who disapprove do hate him, probably enough that they won’t vote for him, but no so much that they’d all vote for a democrat.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThey may not like Mc Connell, but they sure as hell love Trump. KY has consistently had one of the highest approval percentages for Trump, and went 62% Trump in the election. I think that gives you a fair idea of what the voter base is like there.
His latest approval rating in KY is 61%, and that’s after the 18 point drop.
Edited by archonspeaks on Jan 2nd 2019 at 7:33:09 AM
They should have sent a poet.He may still be above 50% in KY, but Trump has lost a lot of support there since the election, down by 18%. There are only 8 states in the entire union where his loss of support isn't in the double digits, and not a single state where he hasnt seen a loss.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.Yes, they love Trump.
Everyone in the state loves Trump. I don't understand it but they lap up the "he brought back jobs", "he save coal", and "He'll restore tobacco." (Which is weird because tobacco never went away—we sell it to Asia now)
But Mc Connell is frustrating as hell for Republicans in Kentucky and the few Democrats as he is impossible to get out of power. There have been many attempts to make reforms on numerous things that the State Senate and legislature have all thrown, only to be shut down by him.
He's perceived as basically the Federal Republicans leader and leans on their power to control the state.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

Everything you have said pretty much is nonsense. The issues of gerrymandering, cronyism, the Republican stranglehold on the state's voting and platforms, plus a hundred other issues are there.
People hate Mitch but he's the candidate they run.
Mind you, I also know that Trump supporters don't necessarily love the GOP but that's another issue.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 2nd 2019 at 5:58:28 AM
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