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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#265176: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:10:52 AM

[up][up] that screams indentured servitude to me.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#265177: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:28:48 AM

[up] There are no coincidences?

That actually brings up a question I had about government workers. Are they allowed to collect unemployment money while they're furloughed?

Imca (Veteran)
#265178: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:31:03 AM

isn't unemployment money federal, thus also held up.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#265179: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:40:17 AM

Unemployment is state level. I've had to file for it in both California and Idaho through state offices.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 28th 2018 at 12:40:32 PM

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#265180: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:42:27 AM

I got nothing against President Jolie. I just want to see Congresswoman Jolie, Senator Jolie or Governer Jolie first.

Pretty much the same goes for all the other celebrity candidates. After all, before the harassment scandal that brought him down President Franken was not outside the realms of possiblity.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#265181: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:55:31 AM

[up][up][up][up] No, they're still employed and they will still eventually get their back-pay (probably).

For those that have enough savings, it's like an exceedingly stressful vacation. For those living paycheck to paycheck, it's much worse.

And for government contractors or small business owners that rely on the business of federal workers, well, they're just absolutely boned.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#265182: Dec 28th 2018 at 11:59:11 AM

Apparently only “essential” employees will get back pay. The rest are screwed.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#265183: Dec 28th 2018 at 12:04:44 PM

Well, theres some more people voting Dem in 2020.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#265184: Dec 28th 2018 at 12:26:55 PM

So here's one that ticked me off. In another political forum I'm in, someone expressed the good ol' "The shutdown and my stocks tanking are worth it if it pisses off the liberals!" sentiment (and yes, in so many words). I called him out for it - none too politely, I'll admit - and subsequently got banned because the mod felt I couldn't take disagreement.

I will never understand the mentality of those who hold a political view out of pure spite for some nebulous group they don't like.

[down]

Honestly, that doesn't even seem like a good fit for this one. It's not out of protectionism, it's just out of pure spite - the former I can understand, but the latter... not so much.

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 28th 2018 at 3:39:48 PM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#265185: Dec 28th 2018 at 12:30:51 PM

It's called tribalism, and stems from a worldview where the world is too dangerous for individuals to survive in, and so you must remain loyal to your group, whatever that group may be. Its a little like trying to prove to a Yankees fan that the Boston Red Socks deserve their victory.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#265186: Dec 28th 2018 at 1:13:00 PM

I don't think there's anything to understand. Some people just want their enemies to be miserable, no matter what the cost.

i'm tired, my friend
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#265187: Dec 28th 2018 at 1:39:45 PM

Disinformation campaign targeting Roy Moore’s Senate bid may have violated law, Alabama attorney general says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/technology/2018/12/27/disinformation-campaign-targeting-roy-moores-senate-bid-may-have-violated-law-alabama-attorney-general-says/?noredirect=on

An excerpt:

Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall said Thursday that his office is exploring whether disinformation tactics deployed against Republican Roy Moore during last year’s special election violated state campaign laws and said he was worried that the operation could have affected the closely fought Senate race.

“The information is concerning,” Marshall, a Republican, said in a phone interview. “The impact it had on the election is something that’s significant for us to explore, and we’ll go from there.”

Moore lost the election to Democrat Doug Jones.

Marshall, who said he learned of the disinformation campaign called Project Birmingham through news reports over the past two weeks, stopped short of announcing a formal investigation but said his office was beginning to gather information about the effort.

“We’re planning to explore the issue further,” Marshall said.

Jones on Thursday also reiterated his support for a federal investigation into the matter, days after the Alabama Democratic senator said that the Federal Election Commission and the Department of Justice should study the effects of disinformation on the race. Jones added he had directed his team “to prepare a formal request to file with the appropriate federal authorities who have jurisdiction.”

“Illegal influence operations are a serious threat to our democracy, regardless of where these activities originate or who they seek to support,” Jones said.

The FEC did not respond to a request for comment.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 28th 2018 at 2:40:04 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#265188: Dec 28th 2018 at 1:52:33 PM

House Minority Whip Steny H. Hoyer Has officially declared the House will not seat that North Carolina Republican who tried to steal his election.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#265189: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:05:32 PM

[up]

Unfortunately, the elections board has dispersed, meaning that a new election being held just got a much higher bar. That said, it also means they did so without certifying the results in the race, making it that much more contentious.

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 28th 2018 at 5:06:03 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#265190: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:07:56 PM

Reminder that a special election doesn't have to be held, the House can just seat his opponent if they so please, and there's nothing anyone can say about it because that's within their powers.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#265191: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:12:31 PM

On the Alabama thing...a cynic part of me just wonders if a judge (especially in Alabama) would be willing to side with Moore over this because a Precedent for this kind of election manipulation would probably long term hurt the GOP more...

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#265192: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:13:53 PM

But the misinformation was targetting Moore, wasn't it?

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#265193: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:34:00 PM

Yeah, but in general this sort of thing helps the GOP more than the Dems...would the GOP really want a ruling to help Moore than long term might screw them over?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#265194: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:40:42 PM

See, the impression I had is that it's Jones who is asking for an investigation, not Moore.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#265195: Dec 28th 2018 at 2:53:45 PM

Yes, but I speak of an actual lawsuit that might follow that Investigation

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Rebel20 Since: Dec, 2018
#265196: Dec 28th 2018 at 3:21:38 PM
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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#265197: Dec 28th 2018 at 3:24:37 PM

Just a thing here: the whole japanise interm camp is wrongfully in the sense they use faulty logic and goals(the presumtion that japanise americans were spies send to japan) which reach insane troll logic(to quote Dewitt, the idiot in charge of that "The fact we havent found any spies show they have hiding something").

So yeah, they were wrongfully accused.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#265198: Dec 28th 2018 at 3:36:51 PM

[up][up] I'm almost afraid to click based on what I can see if the url. Just what is it?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#265199: Dec 28th 2018 at 3:39:00 PM

Given their posting history DONT,could be a shock site

Sending in the bomb squad..

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer

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