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tsstevens Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did from Reading tropes such as Righting Great Wrongs Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#265003: Dec 24th 2018 at 7:29:52 PM

Eesh, apparently Steve Mnuchin might also be shown the door based on whether or not the stock market keeps dropping.

All I could think reading that was this old Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal strip. The stock market doesn't work that way!

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#265004: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:09:29 PM

He's going to run out of people to hire from Fox News at this rate.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#265005: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:10:52 PM

[up] At this rate, he's going to also run out of current Republican Congressmen, Senators, Judges and Governors as well.

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#265007: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:18:53 PM

You ever think Trump's the Grinch in disguise?

I hold the secrets of the machine.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#265009: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:29:27 PM

Because of course Trump would manage to screw up even this.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#265010: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:48:31 PM

[up][up]

Eh, that's really small potatoes compared to other things. I'm willing to give Trump a pass on that one.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#265011: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:50:42 PM

[up]x5 with video.

Trump to seven year old that called in to talk to Santa: "Are you still a believer in Santa? Because at seven it's marginal, right?"

Edited by megaeliz on Dec 24th 2018 at 11:51:21 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#265012: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:54:54 PM

Outfox the Holidays! Put the parental controls on your Fox News loving relatives televisions, and give the gift of Sanity not Hannity!

Edited by megaeliz on Dec 24th 2018 at 11:56:32 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#265013: Dec 24th 2018 at 8:58:29 PM

[up][up][up]That it's small potatoes is not the issue here. The point is that we've got a POTUS who is so incompetent, so lacking in basic human decency and empathy, so fucking stupid that they messed up a call with a kid on Christmas.

It just highlights what a fucking sad joke this country became the moment Trump won.

Edited by M84 on Dec 25th 2018 at 12:59:18 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#265014: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:07:55 PM

Frankly, given the vast and strong media presence the far-right has on youtube. I have to wonder just how effective "outfoxing the holidays" would actually be.

i'm tired, my friend
TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#265015: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:09:16 PM

@stock market: Yes, the President has little to do with the stock market, and the stock market as little to do with the actual economy. But this can be used as a weapon against the Republicans, no?

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#265016: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:14:55 PM

[up][up] this is more for the Fox News obsessed older relatives, I think. The ones who will try to turn it on at every family gathering, however much you beg.

Edited by megaeliz on Dec 24th 2018 at 12:18:23 PM

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#265017: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:45:26 PM

What does "at seven it's marginal" supposed to even mean within the context of asking a child if they believe in Santa?

Do not obey in advance.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#265018: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:49:10 PM

That you're just about too old to believe in that shit, which I'm sure is what Trump was gearing up to say next.

It's been fun.
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#265019: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:55:52 PM

Part of me wishes he had said that. The goons at Fox would be falling over themselves trying to justify him breaking the myth of Santa to a child in light of their bogus War on Christmas. Fortunately, the part of me that cares about him dashing the dreams of a child is glad he didn't get that far.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#265020: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:58:18 PM

Honestly, I think a lot of people would agree with Trump's general sentiment they'd just (probably, hopefully) be more tactful about it.

And of course, given the actual nature of what he was doing, the question was really stupid itself.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 24th 2018 at 12:00:41 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#265021: Dec 24th 2018 at 9:59:00 PM

He was this close to calling a seven year old an idiot for believing in Santa.

More proof he never stopped being the petty cruel bully he apparently was in his schoolboy days.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#265022: Dec 24th 2018 at 10:08:30 PM

But anyway, merry Christmas for those who celebrate it.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 24th 2018 at 12:08:42 PM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#265023: Dec 24th 2018 at 10:08:33 PM

@M84: Maybe, but I would argue that flipping out over every minor faux pas the president does is...well, a bit petty. That's part of why I got a little sick of the Republican party, actually-they would go really far out of their way to find every time the President Poked The Poodle.

@Megaeliz: Yeah, every time I stay at my Grandparent's house, my Grandpa plays Fox News all the time, much to my annoyance (at least at the time, they came across as very whiny).

But the weirdest thing is that my grandparents are the token Democrats of my family.

Leviticus 19:34
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#265024: Dec 24th 2018 at 10:17:59 PM

[up]I find this particular petty cruelty vexing because it highlights that he's a jerk on just about every conceivable level.

It's a bit like how the petty cruelty of characters like The Joker or The Red Skull makes them even more horrifying. The Joker will do anything if he thinks it's funny, from pieing people in the face to tricking Superman into murdering his own wife and unborn child and nuking his home city in the process. The Red Skull never wastes an opportunity to be a bullying jerk, whether it's eating an apple right in front of a starving kid or committing genocide. Loki never misses a chance at engaging in mischief, whether it's holding a gasping fish out of water or killing a man and replacing him to have his way with the guy's wife.

Trump? He's a POTUS who makes fun of kids for believing in Santa and is dragging the country into the gutter over a stupid wall.

It's not a minor faux pas. It's not a gaffe. It's a sign of just how awful a human being Trump is.

Edited by M84 on Dec 25th 2018 at 2:18:40 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#265025: Dec 24th 2018 at 10:22:38 PM

“The goons at Fox would be falling over themselves trying to justify him breaking the myth of Santa to a child in light of their bogus War on Christmas. “

They’d probably call Santa a socialist.


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