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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
As well as Orrin Hatch and the other Republican Senators who have openly said that if McConnell tries tanking the filibuster just to get the wall funded, they'll vote against it. Most of them are leaving, ironically enough.
Update: According to Bob Corker (also one of the aforementioned), Schumer and McConnell may have come to a deal
, though what that is has yet to be discussed publicly.
Lawful Evil is still lawful, after all
Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 21st 2018 at 5:08:01 AM
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"I wouldn't give them too much credit. They know damn well Mc Connel will never do it. This is basically a freebie. If there was any credible possibility of it actually happening, I'm not sure they'd be so principled.
Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Dec 21st 2018 at 2:26:27 AM
That's self-preservation, not principal, those Republicans understand that if they remove the filibuster then when the Democrats take the Senate they'll be able to pass what they want.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 21st 2018 at 5:50:59 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangLatest Update is the Senate Majority Whip saying there isn't gonna be a vote tonight. So shutdown is gonna happen, question is how long.
"You can reply to this Message!"No deal is worth the paper it is written on until the Orange One has been looked at it, accepted it, listened to what Fox and/or Rush has to say on it, and then get the freedom caucus to get something through the House whilst they still have control.
Do you think therefore that this could drag on till the next session of Congress begins as the first act of a Democrat House majority? Because once they are seated it just becomes a case of overriding a Presidential veto, and given how cheesed off Republicans seem to be in the Senate what with the shutdown and Mattis, it's not an impossible proposition.
Honestly, the mere idea of having two government shutdowns in one year is a really good sign of how fucked up things are.
Hell, at least the one in 2013 happened because republicans didn't want to pass Obamacare, or something to that extent. I don't remember all of the details behind it, although Ted Cruz did have quite a lot to do with it, or so I've heard.
The problem is that they all got kicked out of congress (and by extension, the party).
Yeah; there's plenty in this thread. But you're right; right now, though, the only one in Congress is Murkowski and she falls in line too often for some damn fool reason, despite Alaska as a whole wanting nothing to do with the post-2010 right wing.
Really,like who?
Ben Sasse and Mitt Romney come to mind. On the punditry side, there's Tom Nichols, Bill Kristol, Rick Wilson, Sohrab Ahmari, Jonah Goldberg, Noah Rothman, and Charlie Sykes. All that's just off the top of my head.
Has anyone heard about this?
Russian Agents Sought Secret US Treasury Records On Clinton Backers During 2016 Campaign
.
I know it's Buzzfeed, but they're the ones who brought us the Steele dossier (and recently won the defamation suit brought against them for doing so), and this article is clearly detailed and well-researched. And there's also clearly something dysfunctional going on within these departments, let alone with the Russian agents getting involved. It also has repercussions beyond Clinton's campaign since it reveals compromised intelligence agents and more of how extensive and how far back Russian interference (and Republican dereliction of duty) has gone.
One more thing the Democratic House needs to investigate.
Edited by Ingonyama on Dec 21st 2018 at 7:37:46 AM

Not sure how you get that conclusion from "the Senate’s traditional 60-vote threshold for quashing a filibuster “has prevented our country for decades from sliding toward liberalism.”"
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman