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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#264826: Dec 21st 2018 at 2:24:06 AM

[up]Nah, Turtle was Filibuster with SCOTUS, to punch Gorsuch through.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#264827: Dec 21st 2018 at 2:46:02 AM

Democrats did scrap the filibuster for judges and executive members but not SCOTUS since that is a much bigger deal. Evil Turtle scrapped it there as well for Gorsuch since Supreme Court nominatios are rare, whereas he keeps it for laws as he's smart and experienced and long-game player enough to realize he'll need it in the future.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#264828: Dec 21st 2018 at 6:26:05 AM

Oh hey, Rubio is shilling for the #crowdfundthewall scam.

Edited by Deadbeatloser22 on Dec 21st 2018 at 2:26:16 PM

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#264829: Dec 21st 2018 at 6:41:05 AM

Fox & Friends continues to pleasantly surprise me by going against the president again. It's not enough to make me want to tune into their show, but still, I'm actually stunned.

Edited by speedyboris on Dec 21st 2018 at 8:42:30 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#264830: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:06:55 AM

And CNN just broke that Ginsberg had a pair of cancerous nodules removed from one of her lungs.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/21/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-surgery/index.html

God fucking damn it. I know its pure hindsight, but she (along with Bayer) should have resigned in 2012-14. If she dies/resigns while the GOP still has the White House and the Senate...

Politicized judiciaries; not even once.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Dec 21st 2018 at 2:07:28 PM

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#264831: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:15:24 AM

It wouldn't have helped. Look how the Republicans stonewalled Garland. More liberal justices retiring at that time might have made it even worse now.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264832: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:15:52 AM

[up][up]And they wouldn't even have been found if she hadn't broken her ribs and got examined in the first place.

Edited by kkhohoho on Dec 21st 2018 at 12:16:09 PM

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#264833: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:17:50 AM

Yeah, that is good news.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#264834: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:22:18 AM

[up][up][up][up]RBG should have retired in 2009 when Democrats had a trifecta.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#264835: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:26:56 AM

Yeah, she shoulda resigned in 2009. Too late and pointless to complain about it now though.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#264836: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:34:29 AM

The Democrats had control of the Senate until 2014, remember. But yes, Ginsberg and Bayer should have retired a decade ago, ideally.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#264837: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:40:34 AM

I don't know much about Ginsberg, who are they?

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264838: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:42:33 AM

[up]One of the current Dem SC Justices and arguably the most prominent. Also 85 years old.

Edited by kkhohoho on Dec 21st 2018 at 12:43:22 PM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#264839: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:43:05 AM

A liberal Supreme Court judge.

The article notes There is no evidence of any remaining disease, says a court spokesperson, nor is there evidence of disease elsewhere in the body. and I am mightily surprised by In 1999, Ginsburg underwent surgery for colorectal cancer, and 10 years later she was treated for early stages of pancreatic cancer.

For what it's worth She has also hired law clerks for the next two two court terms. so she'll be sticking around for a while.

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#264840: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:44:01 AM

Supreme Court Justice and one of the oldest serving members. If she dies while Trump is president and the Republicans control the Senate, the Supreme Court would hugely right-wing for a very long time.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#264841: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:44:06 AM

Democrat-appoint judge on the Supreme Court. 85 years old. If she stops serving, Republicans get another SC seat. The SC is more or less a lost cause even if she stays healthy until a Democratic president.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#264842: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:45:10 AM

She's a supream court associate justice,she's had the role since Clinton was president,which is what happens when it's a service for life

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 21st 2018 at 10:46:34 AM

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#264843: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:48:17 AM

And here we manage to catch a rare glimpse of a flock of ninjas in their natural environment.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#264844: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:54:39 AM

Ginsburg is one of the most badass and durable people alive. She's had cancer like three or four times now, and fought it off every time. She's broken bones repeatedly. All throughout that, she either works directly from the hospital or goes back to work literally the day she's able.

I wouldn't worry about her, she has stated that she fully intends to serve as a Justice until her dying day, and it's been shown that even the Grim Reaper can't do shit to stop her.

Imca (Veteran)
#264845: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:59:25 AM

So wait, Judges, and Supreme Court Judges have separate rules?

I would have though they were both the same thing.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264846: Dec 21st 2018 at 10:59:32 AM

Honestly, at this point, I'm just assuming that Ginsburg is actually a Liberal Terminator sent back in time to stop the Republicans from destroying the planet. It's the only logical explanation for how durable she is.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 21st 2018 at 1:59:50 PM

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#264847: Dec 21st 2018 at 1:09:47 PM

Going back to Mattis, I'm mulling over putting his resignation letter on the Stealth Insult page, because he goes on at length about how much he, personally, views the alliances the US has made as invaluable before the fourth (or fifth) paragraph in which he says that Trump deserves a Defense Secretary whose views align with his.

And in brighter news, despite Trump pushing for it, McConnell won't employ the Nuclear Option to get the wall funding through. Granted, this counts as Pragmatic Villainy, but it's still something.

Edit: After reading further, it might be less that McConnell is against it than it is other Republicans who've stated that, if the option were employed, would vote against it on principle, including Orrin Hatch.

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 21st 2018 at 4:27:57 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264850: Dec 21st 2018 at 1:36:19 PM

There are, despite all evidence to the contrary, still Republicans of principle.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.

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